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nadir

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## Re: Refracta wiki project

Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:46 pm

1) I do see white. The background in the boxes. That is not white? What color is it then?
2) team and such (footer): I meant to add your name somewhere as the one who has worked on the web-page (I proposed either the team-page or the footer or both). "hosted by" and "created with" were only examples from the www, to point out that it is not unusual.
gedit?
Oh my.
fsmithred

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## Re: Refracta wiki project

Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:26 pm

I tried playing with the white background in the boxes - took a screenshot and edited it in gimp. Tried some different colors. Didn't come up with anything that looked better. Well,maybe a really light gray. I'm looking at dfe0dc right now and it's pretty good, but it makes the blue lettering harder to read.
golinux

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## Re: Refracta wiki project

Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:39 pm

> nadir wrote:1) I do see white. The background in the boxes. That is not white? What color is it then?

#F8F8F8 Hex Color - RGB: 248, 248, 248

> nadir wrote:2) team and such (footer): I meant to add your name somewhere as the one who has worked on the web-page (I proposed either the team-page or the footer or both).

Appreciate the thought. But it's gonna need a LOT more work if I'm gonna put my name on it. Besides, it wasn't my concept. I'm just the housecleaner and doing a little redecorating.

> nadir wrote:gedit?

I cut my markup teeth on Notetab running it in wine once I moved to Linux. Since I'm not really doing any designing any more, I'm trying to move to a native editor. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find a native app in Linux that matches the features of Notetab.
golinux

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## Re: Refracta wiki project

Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:49 pm

> fsmithred wrote:I tried playing with the white background in the boxes - took a screenshot and edited it in gimp. Tried some different colors. Didn't come up with anything that looked better. Well,maybe a really light gray. I'm looking at dfe0dc right now and it's pretty good, but it makes the blue lettering harder to read.

Yes, darker backgrounds are an accessibility issue. I can tweak a site ad nauseum. Like . . . I really, really would like to change from a pure black font - I NEVER use pure black on a site - but that would mean having to put the same color in the logo. One thing leads to another . . .
The site structure and content are the most important to focus on imo. FWIW, the site will need to be in place before we do the wiki stuff.
Unanswered ??? Should I add a link to the forum under 'other resources'? And a link to home? Not everyone will know to click on the logo. I am also considering combining the home, team and screenshot navigation into one box. Will make the nav look a little less fussy. I'll post a mockup when I get back over to squeeze.
fsmithred

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## Re: Refracta wiki project

Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:23 pm

The forum is already linked under 'related resources'. Or do you mean somewhere else?
Yes, a home link is a good idea.
I guess I need to come up with one more screenshot to fill the empty space.
golinux

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## Re: Refracta wiki project

Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:19 pm

> fsmithred wrote:The forum is already linked under 'related resources'.

No, that clearly goes to github. A direct link to this place - Refracta forum - would be good.

> fsmithred wrote:Yes, a home link is a good idea.

Will do and post in a bit.

> fsmithred wrote:I guess I need to come up with one more screenshot to fill the empty space.

Not necessarily but one of snapshot would be nice. It would be better, I think, if all the screenies use the 'deep space' bg theme for consistency. Did you notice that I optimized all the current screenies so they load really fast?
fsmithred

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## Re: Refracta wiki project

Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:32 pm

30Gb/s connection here, so pretty much everything loads fast. No, I didn't notice, but thanks. I still miss my ncsa mosaic browser with images turned off.
Not sure why you're not seeing the link to this forum. It says "nadir's forum" and it links to this site. The one that goes to github says "fsmithred's github". If you want to change "nadir's forum" to "Refracta Help/Discussion Forum" and "fsmithred's github" to "Refracta at github" or something like that, that would be good.
golinux

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## Re: Refracta wiki project

Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:02 pm

> fsmithred wrote:30Gb/s connection here, so pretty much everything loads fast. No, I didn't notice, but thanks. I still miss my ncsa mosaic browser with images turned off.
> Not sure why you're not seeing the link to this forum. It says "nadir's forum" and it links to this site. The one that goes to github says "fsmithred's github". If you want to change "nadir's forum" to "Refracta Help/Discussion Forum" and "fsmithred's github" to "Refracta at github" or something like that, that would be good.

Duh . . . I expected that link to take me to http://resident.dyndns.info/. That is what I consider to be 'nadir's forum'. He may have set up this place . . . kudos for that. But how is it 'his' forum? Why not drop the ego/identification thing and just title the links Refracta forum and Refracta github?
fsmithred

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## Re: Refracta wiki project

Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:49 pm

Dean was the one who set up the ibiblio site. He designated this forum as Nadir's forum to differentiate it from the string of forums that rose and fell that were Dean's forums. The message between the lines was "Here's a link to a forum that won't disappear next month."
Call it "Refracta Help/Discussion Forum" which is what my browser calls it when I bookmark it.
golinux

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## Re: Refracta wiki project

Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:17 pm

> fsmithred wrote:Dean was the one who set up the ibiblio site. He designated this forum as Nadir's forum to differentiate it from the string of forums that rose and fell that were Dean's forums. The message between the lines was "Here's a link to a forum that won't disappear next month."

Important history but only to a few . . .

> fsmithred wrote:Call it "Refracta Help/Discussion Forum" which is what my browser calls it when I bookmark it.

WHOA! That's waaaay too many letters and words. Needs to fit comfortably on one line if it's to look 'right'. Trust me on that.
Here are some suggested navigation layout changes. I moved the documentation up because it is the most important section. It is left justified because on center it is pretty hard to read. Combined the other three main page links into one box. They look better centered as do the resource links.
I'm still mucking around with font sizing and margins so don't be surprised if there are inconsistencies at this point. For future reference . . . never use pt to set a font size unless you are a printer. Use % or ems. I can post links to some font sizing discussions from about 10 years ago when we were just working out the best methods if you're interested. One other note . . . I am only testing this on Iceweasel and Chrome. It should't blow up in IE or Safari as the code is valid but I have no way of testing.
PS. You might need to refresh your browser to see any changes.
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