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## Another wheezy build

Stuff that has not yet gone into the official build.
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### Another wheezy build

by fsmithred » Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:22 am

I just replaced the refracta-nox-wheezy iso I built in February with a newer No-X image, which was built from a minimal* wheezy netinstall (from a recent weekly-build CD1), and without recommends.
It's in the testing folder
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... a/testing/
With xz compression, the size is 283mb, compared to the February image of 406mb. Some of that difference is due to missing packages in the newer build. Some of the missing packages:
cups, ffmpeg, cdrdao, dvd+rw-tools, ddrescue (replaced with gddrescue), clamav, gvfs, gvfs-backends,
hal, dbus, iptraf, smbfs (replaced with cifs-utils), ssl-cert (comes with cups), sudo, udisks, usbmuxd,
uuid-runtime (installer works without it), and a bunch of libraries
I think most of those will get added deliberately or automatically, as I continue to build the system.
refractasnapshot-base-9.0.5-4 and refractainstaller-base-9.0.5-3 are installed, and snapshot script was hacked to include xz compression with mksquashfs. (I need to include that in new debs). The debs for those are in the testing folder and in the github repo.
*Edit: selected 'Standard system utilities' at tasksel

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### Re: Another wheezy build

by meandean » Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:09 am

Including telnet and nfs stuff seems odd.
I have no use for exim or virtualbox but I guess others probably do?
Oh, and I am sure you noticed that you need to touch etc/fstab otherwise when you boot it complains and complains.
Anything I should be testing? I gave up on grub-legacy testing as it does not seem to like my system. I always end up with oddities when trying it out. Not to mention that I actually prefer grub-pc anyway.
DAMMIT I HATE THIS FORUM....cant post slashes....

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### Re: Another wheezy build

by fsmithred » Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:05 pm

Telnet, nfs-common and exim4 came with the standard system install (or maybe just with expert install?) Telnet is worth keeping in case you need to un-brick a router. I can't think of any other uses. If I get rid of exim, that'll take care of the problem I was having yesterday trying to exclude /var/spool/mail/*, so that you don't get a notice about having mail when you log in. The nfs is just the client side, and it's small. There was a time when I might have used it, but I just use sshfs now. I'm making images now that have almost everything except some big stuff. After I add that, I may need to go back and trim some megabytes here and there. Should have a beta release soon.
I did notice the messages about a missing fstab, but I haven't done anything about it. Don't recall that happening in the past, but thanks for the tip. Will rebuild the snapshot debs before beta release.
Not sure what I'm doing with the grub stuff. I was hoping dzz would show up with some insights. It seems to work ok if you put grub-legacy in the partition, but not so with grub-pc. The grub-to-partition option is only in the yad version of the script right now.

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### Re: Another wheezy build

by nadir » Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:59 pm

Am downloading it right now.
Will do the best i can to have a look,
but my main PC is dying, and hence i got a bit of trouble to reorganize my daily ride.
Oh, and i like standard tasksel. If i skip it, i have to add those later manually. Not my thing.
So i herd u liek mudkip?

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### Re: Another wheezy build

by meandean » Mon Aug 27, 2012 5:24 pm

> Telnet, nfs-common and exim4 came with the standard system install (or maybe just with expert install?) Telnet is worth keeping in case you need to un-brick a router. I can't think of any other uses. If I get rid of exim, that'll take care of the problem I was having yesterday trying to exclude /var/spool/mail/*, so that you don't get a notice about having mail when you log in. The nfs is just the client side, and it's small. There was a time when I might have used it, but I just use sshfs now. I'm making images now that have almost everything except some big stuff. After I add that, I may need to go back and trim some megabytes here and there. Should have a beta release soon.

coolbeans! I just wanted to be sure packages were intended rather than slipping in.

> I did notice the messages about a missing fstab, but I haven't done anything about it. Don't recall that happening in the past, but thanks for the tip. Will rebuild the snapshot debs before beta release.

Yep, just started happening fairly recently. I suspect it is a change in the live scripts that looks for a etc/fstab now.

> Not sure what I'm doing with the grub stuff. I was hoping dzz would show up with some insights.

me too

> It seems to work ok if you put grub-legacy in the partition, but not so with grub-pc.

On my laptop it usually just sits there staring at me executing grub-install but never finishes. If I tell it to not probe and to force and this and that then it completes but on reboot you get grub not found or such. I suspect that maybe the device designation changes and throws off grub-legacy. I am not sure as I want to kick it out the window when I mess with it. So I will stick to grub-pc and keep my laptop whole...
I actually had the same or similar problem with antix which I think is using grub-gfx or whatever it is called. It would boot the antix install alright but none of the other menu entries. I never did figure that one out either.
I wonder if some conflict of mixing (or previously using) grub-pc cause these problems. dunno...

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### Re: Another wheezy build

by fsmithred » Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:17 am

With just about everything installed, the iso comes out slightly above 600 MB. Looks like I don't have to cut things out, and the package list will be essentially the same as in the squeeze version.
Having problems with lightdm - the language selector seems to do nothing. I can get it to display all the configured locales, but selecting one at login does nothing. I'm considering using no display manager. I already hacked the motd to add instructions on using startx after logging into console.
xfce4-terminal transparent background doesn't work. I don't see any bug reports about it. Anyone else tried it in wheezy or sid?

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### Re: Another wheezy build

by dzz » Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:52 pm

No time lately to do refracta stuff, just got too busy, hoping things willl quieten down in a week or two.
As it was me who asked for grub-legacy support and I actually use it (on some systems) I will be testing that and more as soon as possible. Grub (legacy or not) to partition is very important here. I have numerous OS for different purposes, including Refracta, some dedicated for test only but want my everyday use stable Debian in charge of MBR and carefully customised menus. Grub-pc to PBR should work, I have done it.
Good news wheezy is progressing, I'm sure lightdm is the way to go and will do what I can to help with that.

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### Re: Another wheezy build

by fsmithred » Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:58 am

http://distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/test ... 9_2245.iso
md5sum: fc12154df2eb3144fbe12574507a5779
lightdm is installed but is turned off. Turn it on with '(slash)etc(slash)init.d(slash)lightdm start' or permanently on with 'update-rc.d lightdm defaults'.
Selecting locales at boot doesn't work the same as in squeeze. If you go to the boot help F5 page and follow the directions, you'll get a 'kernel not found' error. Instead, you can hit the TAB button and append the boot line with the locales and keyboard information. (refracta-configs works there, too.) It seems that 'man live-boot' and 'man live-config' pages are missing. Not sure what that's about.
The iso is 614 MB. Since there was enough room, I added Asunder, which was removed in a beta version of refracta-606.
No plugins or special settings in the web browser.
Probably some other stuff missing or wrong. I'll let you guys play with it a bit before I make an official announcement.
Oh yeah, two packages left out for grave and serious bugs - wicd and xfce4-netload-plugin.

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### Re: Another wheezy build

by meandean » Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:49 pm

Woah I didn't get to play with the last one. I will grab this one and give it a spin.
No problems with xfce terminal transparency here.

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### Re: Another wheezy build

by fsmithred » Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:06 am

Guess I should have mentioned that I got transparency to work by turning on compositing. That's not how I wanted to do it, partly because of the way it works (shows the windows below it instead of just the background) and partly because it uses more than 10 MB of memory. You can turn it off in Settings --> Window Manager Tweaks. I recall that this was a problem when squeeze was still in testing, and it eventually got fixed. I'm hoping for the same this time.
Also:
The versions of refractasnapshot (cli and gui) are slightly tweaked from what their version number says. I added 'touch "$work_dir"-myfs-etc-fstab', added some stuff to the excludes file, and probably a couple of custom settings in the config file.

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