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## Finally installed the 'unofficial' alpha2

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### Finally installed the 'unofficial' alpha2

by golinux » Sun Oct 25, 2015 10:14 pm

Yes, it FINALLY happened! Did an expert install with the yad gui. Fast and slick operation. You might want to update the refractainstaller readme on the site - options are a little different now. It was a bit confusing because I looked at it before installing and then it was different in real time . . .
When grub updated on wheezy it found "unknown Linux distribution on /dev/sdb1" but recognized Devuan by name in the grub menu when I rebooted. But there were 2 grub entries. One for just Devuan and one for Devuan identifying the kernel version (the one I chose). Have any idea what the other one is about? It booted to a blank screen. Went to tty, logged in and ran startx. Why didn't slim launch? I see it's installed. Also reboot and shutdown are grayed out in the logout menu and no suspend or hibernate options. What did I miss? Copied my mozilla profile from wheezy and now sorting out the glitches in the latest ff version. Time to start pimping out Devuan.
Kudos to you for doing this. I always post a link to this and dzz's version when someone asks for a live disk on the channels and email. Just had to do that today in fact.
Obviously back has improved quite a bit . . . at last.
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### Re: Finally installed the 'unofficial' alpha2

by golinux » Sun Oct 25, 2015 11:38 pm

Oh no! Rebooted back to refracta wheezy and lightdm is stuck in a login loop. Seems I conquered this once before. Removed .Xauthority and .ICEauthority. Reinstalled. I can't get in. Suggestions welcome . . .
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### Re: Finally installed the 'unofficial' alpha2

by nadir » Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:46 am

First things first:congrats.
As far login is concerned: As i don't use display-managers, i am not too sure. I would try to run
startx
from a tty.
It might take you to the ligthdm (or other display-managers) screen, which is not what i would want (but the desktop environment).
You could try also
etc/init.d/lightdm stop
and if that doesn't help
sysv-rc-conf
and remove lightdm from being started (thinking about it, i think that is the way to go to stop "startx" starting a display-manager).
Have a look at
~/.xsession-errors
or similar (just do ls -ahl , and it will be among the last files to be found, something with errors).
I too recall having read about such problems here and there.
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xchat: you could try pidgin as a replacement (i don't know, just give it a try).
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### Re: Finally installed the 'unofficial' alpha2

by golinux » Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:30 am

Thanks for checking in nadir!

> nadir wrote:As far login is concerned: As i don't use display-managers, i am not too sure. I would try to run
> startx
> from a tty.

Doesn't work. Just kind of hangs and does weird things in the tty.

> nadir wrote:It might take you to the ligthdm (or other display-managers) screen, which is not what i would want (but the desktop environment).

I can get to the login screen. It just keeps looping.

> nadir wrote:You could try also
> etc/init.d/lightdm stop
> and if that doesn't help
> sysv-rc-conf
> and remove lightdm from being started (thinking about it, i think that is the way to go to stop "startx" starting a display-manager).

Haven't tried that. Gotta write it down. Or maybe I could just uninstall entirely.

> nadir wrote:Have a look at
> ~/.xsession-errors
> or similar (just do ls -ahl , and it will be among the last files to be found, something with errors).

Will try that too.

> nadir wrote:xchat: you could try pidgin as a replacement (i don't know, just give it a try).

There are no chat programs in the devuan repos that I could find. I'll ask over at devuan or maybe fsmithred knows how to do it.
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### Re: Finally installed the 'unofficial' alpha2

by golinux » Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:07 am

fsmithred . . . also, how do I get rid of the virtual box notification that pops up when I log in?
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### Re: Finally installed the 'unofficial' alpha2

by nadir » Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:56 am

The idea behind using "startx" is to omit starting the display manager and starting X directly.
Besides that it gives error messages in case it doesn't start X.
But yeah, uninstalling it is the other option. And the most easy one.
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### Re: Finally installed the 'unofficial' alpha2

by golinux » Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:09 am

[quote="nadir"]The idea behind using "startx" is to omit starting the display manager and starting X directly.
Yeah, I figured that out but startx still isn't working after I stopped lightdm. Maybe I'll try slim.
[quote="nadir"]Besides that it gives error messages in case it doesn't start X.
I looked at .xsession-errors and didn't see anything.
[quote="nadir"]But yeah, uninstalling it is the other option. And the most easy one.
It's late. Back is hurting. We just had several days of rain and a cold front came through - freezing my *** off. I'm done for the night . . .
Thanks for your help. Hope to get this sorted tomorrow.
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### Re: Finally installed the 'unofficial' alpha2

by fsmithred » Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:28 am

If you have a display manager running, and you boot to a tty that doesn't have a login, try ctrl-alt-Fn, where n is probably going to be 7, but might be 1 or something else.
ctrl-alt-F2 should give you a tty login. I've seen this happen with jessie. I don't recall if it was with debian or devuan. Lotta really basic stuff like this is weird in jessie.

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### Re: Finally installed the 'unofficial' alpha2

by fsmithred » Mon Oct 26, 2015 1:09 pm

I was in a hurry and forgot to tell you what to do with virtualbox.
To see what's installed and remove it.

Code: Select all
  `dpkg -l |grep virtualbox
  apt-get remove <packages>
  apt-get autoremove
  aptitude purge ~c`

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### Re: Finally installed the 'unofficial' alpha2

by golinux » Mon Oct 26, 2015 1:25 pm

> fsmithred wrote:If you have a display manager running, and you boot to a tty that doesn't have a login, try ctrl-alt-Fn, where n is probably going to be 7, but might be 1 or something else.
> ctrl-alt-F2 should give you a tty login. I've seen this happen with jessie. I don't recall if it was with debian or devuan. Lotta really basic stuff like this is weird in jessie.

I need to start a new thread because the lightdm looping is happening on my trusty refracta wheezy on sda that has been running perfectly for well over a year.
With the alpha2 jessie on sdb, slim does not load - just getting a blank screen. I checked the entry in etc/X11/default-display-manager and it is what Centurion_Dan says it should be - /usr/bin/slim. Thankfully, startx does work from a tty and I'm in. But there are no reboot/shutdown/suspend options in the logout dialog. They are all grayed out. IIRC this might be a sudo problem. I think I just left the default option regarding sudo during the install but maybe not. I can reboot/shutdown from a tty. Have never tried to suspend from command line. Will have to look that up.
Sorry for the confusion. I'm still not 100% mentally and even though my back is doing much better, it did not like all the sitting time
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