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## Re: Can I boot the Refracta live disk on a Mac?

Fri Jan 04, 2013 4:12 pm

> fsmithred wrote:There's a way to install x11 on a mac (several ways, I think) and run linux apps. Pretty sure there's a free way to do it. I don't remember any names right now, but check around. I would guess that it allows you to use ext filesystems.

No way I would mess with her computer to try to do that.

> fsmithred wrote:Oh, I just read your post again, and I see you don't have a router and you have a lot of gigabytes to move. Forget about moving them over the internet.

Aye, there's the rub . . .
The free trial is probably the best option but there are so many ISOs to copy - it's actually closer to 30 - and 10 days is not very long . . .
No need to beat our collective heads on this any more, I think. Your input confirmed my original assessment that there's no easy way to do this. More reason to loathe Macs . . .
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## Re: Can I boot the Refracta live disk on a Mac?

Fri Jan 04, 2013 7:54 pm

Yeah, sure, the shot was a joke
(I doubt i would remove the original OS from a new MAC myself -due to the price of it. Otoh: i wouldn't buy myself one cause i ain't got the money anyway .
fsmithred: telemachus rund Mac for sure. He should know which apps can be installed from where (but these days you barely meet him ... just in case).
golinux:
Last shot (though i agree that it probably is a lost case):
Isn't there a way you get the ext4-harddisk, do it all with your computer (it being the cp to DVD's), without any stress ?
I was not kidding when i said that i don't fully understand the problem (which is no miracle, being several OSes, machines, persones and what not involved).
I always go for the most easy solution for me (which sometimes is not the best or just a workaround and often awkward - like removing hard-disks and inserting them in ten computers in a row ... until it works or i give up).
Short: am shooting with closed eyes in the dark here.
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## Re: Can I boot the Refracta live disk on a Mac?

Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:18 pm

> nadir wrote:golinux:
> Last shot (though i agree that it probably is a lost case):
> Isn't there a way you get the ext4-harddisk, do it all with your computer (it being the cp to DVD's), without any stress ?

The stress would be on the oldish IDE DVD burner which I'm not willing to sacrifice to such a project. I have another big project of my own coming up in a few weeks and hope the current burner will last through it. Also IDE replacements are not easy to find these days and not cheap either. I could also take my burned DVDs to copy but considering the errors that creep in on home burned DVDs (even good Taiyo Yuden), it would be better to burn from the original ISOs.
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## Re: Can I boot the Refracta live disk on a Mac?

Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:25 pm

I was told the same when asking for a IDE hard-disk (PATA is IDE, yes?):
buying a SATA and a converter would be cheaper.
Here people throw away old PCs.
I find such stuff in the garbage
(and as people know i am much in computing, they give me all their "trash". 160 Gigs of hard-drive, monitors, computers, etct).
I heard several times it is not that case in the US (well: huge country, so perhaps it is only my info. I think sossego got a lot of old hardware from friends and such).
Perhaps germany is more rhich than i realized yet ... (it started to change anyway, thanks to Schroeder. The poor starve, the middle class is fucked and the rhich are a bit more rhich than before ). ... The beginning is near ....
back to the topic:
In case someone runs in a similar problem, but with less big data: tonido might be an idea (no need to port-forward and a nice web-interface ... last time i checked).
oh, and i asked telemachus, but he didn't know neither.
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## Re: Can I boot the Refracta live disk on a Mac?

Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:17 pm

I just spoke to my mac-expert friend, and he said that OSX can read ntfs, but can't write to it without special software. So, if you have an extra hard drive around that can be reformatted, you can use that to transfer the files. If you don't want to open your friend's computer, you can get an adapter that will do IDE or SATA to usb for around $20.
Free hardware that was someone's trash makes up most of the hardware I have owned. I'm in the US. It's often cheaper to buy a new computer than it is to pay someone to diagnose and fix it, and it's common for all the parts to work except for one. Get two like that, and you've got one working computer and some spare parts.
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## Re: Can I boot the Refracta live disk on a Mac?

Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:32 pm

> fsmithred wrote:I just spoke to my mac-expert friend, and he said that OSX can read ntfs, but can't write to it without special software.

So there's the solution. Thank you! I have an empty usb external drive that I can format ntfs that she can read from. No need to write to it.
And thanks nadir for checking with telemachus.

> fsmithred wrote:Free hardware that was someone's trash makes up most of the hardware I have owned. I'm in the US. It's often cheaper to buy a new computer than it is to pay someone to diagnose and fix it, and it's common for all the parts to work except for one. Get two like that, and you've got one working computer and some spare parts.

My local computer guys recycle my old hardware responsibly and sometimes give me recycled hardware that they have laying around. I always try to scrounge before buying. But there comes a time when a new machine is the only answer. I'm hoping I won't have a major breakdown that would require that for a few years (just added extra ram on both machines).
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