Refracta Development, Scripts, etc.
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thwak

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## Re: Going with the systemd flow . . . or not?

Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:04 pm

> dzz wrote:For anyone interested, I post (*experimental* and *unofficial*) live ISO's here: http://www.exegnulinux.net/refracta/iso/

Attempted to download the "new" iso today, but expected transfer time was shown as 5hrs and quickly jumped to 7hrs so I bailed out. I'll revisit later.
fsmithred

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## Re: Going with the systemd flow . . . or not?

Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:11 pm

Try here, too. I just copied it there in a couple of minutes (using wget to pull it directly to ibiblio). It's the April 18 build.
http://distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/files/Testing/
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## Re: Going with the systemd flow . . . or not?

Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:17 pm

exegnulinux.net is not usually that slow, was hopefully just a temporary blip.
April 27 build is there now, 669MB. New consolekit2 meant the previous custom pkla files could be removed. Sorted the luks problem for the image's live initrd (that is also patched for optional RW mode). Experimental snapshot rebuild with the fixes discussed earlier.
It's worth a look at the custom remaster script posted alongside it. It's not meant as a snapshot alternative, it does different things (although some snapshot code is used). It can unpack an iso, chroot it for changes and rebuild or can be used directly on a plain debootstrap.
ISO's with TDE here: http://exegnulinux.net/downloads/jessie/
New debs for consolekit2, cups and sane-utils with sources here: http://exegnulinux.net/nosystemd/
OT: refractainstaller still doesn't do grub-pc to partition (needs "/bin/bash" removing in command line) Not too serious because the script continues and another grub can still boot it.
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## Re: Going with the systemd flow . . . or not?

Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:31 pm

/bin/bash removed, before I forget.
Downloading the 4/27 iso. Getting 1-2Mb/s on my home connection, and a whopping 5.8Mb/s on ibiblio. Wow. I want their pipe.
Thanks.
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## Re: Going with the systemd flow . . . or not?

Sun May 17, 2015 4:05 pm

I finally got (experimental) working sources and debs for eudev. Running it now. Also works in a live image (seems compatible with live-boot) http://exegnulinux.net/nosystemd/pool/main/e/eudev/
Anyone interested in testing?
Note: I trashed my system several times getting this to work. Best use a VM or a "test" install. At the moment it's necessary to do dpkg -P --force-all on all installed udev packages first.
I'm not the only one on the case of eudev. We are very close to getting eudev sorted for Jessie, just a matter of "tidying up".
anticapitalista

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## Re: Going with the systemd flow . . . or not?

Sun May 17, 2015 10:07 pm

That is great news dzz.
I'll test on antiX-15-Jessie and let you know how it goes.
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## Re: Going with the systemd flow . . . or not?

Thu May 21, 2015 1:19 am

Thanks anti.. should be some updates there by now. I got it working with apt, transitions from systemd-udev (and back) now.
An experimental live image is here.. (scrappy eudev version, updates later): ftp://exegnulinux.net/refracta/iso/eudev/
I'm quite new to deb-packaging, could do with some help cleaning this up. Lots of lintian errors. Must install geudev (if you need it) manually till the deps chain is sorted properly.
fsmithred

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## Re: Going with the systemd flow . . . or not?

Sun May 31, 2015 4:57 pm

I did a debootstrap install of devuan today. Added angband and exegnu repos, but then commented out exegnu for now, just to stop complaints about no amd64. It's working nicely. Still need to install a lot of stuff, but the desktop is there.
Just learned something interesting. Without installing eject, ejecting a mounted usb drive gives and error message, but it does unmount the disk. Icon stays on the desktop and can be remounted/reopened and unmounted again (right-click --> eject). After installing eject, ejecting the disk removes it from the desktop. You have to unplug and replug the stick to see it on the desktop again.
Installed consolekit (from devuan) and policykit-1 (from angband) and shutdown/reboot buttons work. Not sure if something else I installed made that possible. At first it didn't work, but after reboot it was working correctly.
dzz

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## Re: Going with the systemd flow . . . or not?

Sun May 31, 2015 9:06 pm

> Not sure if something else I installed made that possible

Suspend/hibernate also works here from xfce menu.
With my experimental iso's I post a separate package list, you could diff that against yours. Note my package list gets a reasonably functional XFCE4 <700MB and was carefully selected to minimise gtk3 stuff.
You can easily split a package list into several and use apt to install them with --y --force-yes in a "for" loop.
Sorry no facility here to do amd64.. try debuild on the sources, let me know how you get on.
BTW an updated iso with eudev was posted yesterday.
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## Re: Going with the systemd flow . . . or not?

Sat Jun 06, 2015 12:53 am

Started adding amd64 to http://www.exegnulinux.net/nosystemd/ .. just consolekit2 so far.
Sources.list entry is "deb http://exegnulinux.net/nosystemd/ experimental main". and deb http://exegnulinux.net/nosystemd/ jessie main". Best not enable that permanently or dist-upgrade with it, the newer "experimental" stuff might be untested.
Since I started this others are now doing systemd-free debs who are better at it than me. The official devuan repo is becoming more complete. These remain (or will soon be posted for i386 and amd64) either because nobody yet did them or only older versions exist:
apt-cacher-ng consolekit2 cups eudev clamav gvfs-backends sane-backends
Not much left to do with packages I use, (devuan-) jessie is now a reality and works fine here without *systemd*.
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