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nadir

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## refracta or devuan or based isos

Tue Sep 20, 2016 2:57 am

Is this still actual
refracta-ascii-testing-t590.html
?
To put this a bit further. I got a two free partitions where i want to install an operating system.
What options do i have got when it comes to refracta or devuan (exegnulinux too ? ) ?
Rather testing than stable, at least the option to upgrade to testing without much problems.
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## Re: refracta or devuan or based isos

Wed Sep 21, 2016 3:42 am

It still exists on my hard drive. I took it down to make room. There was a jessie-vdev iso there for a bit. The real space-killers are the two unofficial-devuan-live isos. I think I have enough space at ibiblio to put it back up. I don't want to put it on sourceforge, because then it automatically becomes the "Latest version" link. It's not the latest version. It's the version for the brave.
I want to finish the jessie amd64 iso in the next couple of days. Then I'll have time to deal with juggling big files, and I'll put it up again. It'll be in the testing folder at ibiblio (follow the downloads link to all files at ibiblio)
Or, maybe I'l update it first. That one was from July.
Other options:
Devuan jessie minimal install, then update/upgrade to ascii.
Refracta-8 update/upgrade to ascii (might be harder than a minimal. I don't know.)
Exegnulinux: I don't see any testing isos there.
Last time I messed with ascii, xorg required lsd0.
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## Re: refracta or devuan or based isos

Wed Sep 21, 2016 4:42 am

Thanks.
As far i understand, my option is to install refracta stable and upgrade to testing.
That is fine. I only wanted to ask.
(in general i ain't got problems with the refracta i got installed, but flashplayer gave me hard times on a couple of sites. I enabled testing, upgraded flash and disabled testing again, which works. But sooner or later i will need a newer version ... and this install is the one which gaves trouble when upgrading, perhaps due to multimedia packages, i can't remember. right now i got time and place to test a bit).
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## Re: refracta or devuan or based isos

Wed Sep 21, 2016 1:06 pm

Some of the older builds had some packages from deb-multimedia. That's one of the reasons I removed the jessie-nox isos from sf.
It appears to work with current refracta. I got up early this morning, so I upgraded one of my Refracta-8.0 installs. (amd64 on uefi). Here's a synopsis:
update/upgrade jessie
change jessie to ascii in sources.list
update/upgrade ascii
install linux-image and linux-headers 4.6-whatever
(that will cause xorg to upgrade.)
reboot
The desktop comes up fine. It looks like it works. I now have two new icons on my desktop...
efi (the efi partition)
proc (/proc)
WTF?
Removable drives still don't show up, because gvfs didn't get installed.
And libsystemd0 DID get installed, even though *systemd* is pinned, and that pinning works correctly in jessie.
refractasnapshot-gui still works. I made a bootable iso. One glitch is that this must be the gtk3 version of yad that dzz warned us about. Good thing all the buttons have text labels, because they don't have borders. Go into appearance, and change the theme to plain Clearlooks (not Phenix) or another one of the few that actually work.
In the live environment, /tmp shows up on the desktop.
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## Re: refracta or devuan or based isos

Wed Sep 21, 2016 6:00 pm

> fsmithred wrote:It still exists on my hard drive. I took it down to make room. There was a jessie-vdev iso there for a bit. The real space-killers are the two unofficial-devuan-live isos. I think I have enough space at ibiblio to put it back up. I don't want to put it on sourceforge, because then it automatically becomes the "Latest version" link. It's not the latest version. It's the version for the brave.

Send me the files or shoot me a link and i'll stick 'em on my site if you want, my junk is all experimental anyway so it's probably a good place for anything sketchy. I'll put 'em up and post links to it with any disclaimers you feel are necessary.
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## Re: refracta or devuan or based isos

Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:04 pm

I upgraded to testing ascii
In general it worked fine, i used apt-get and had to use --fix-missing (or similar) twice
like fsmithred mentioned earlier, xorg-stuff is getting hold.
... nope: did get upgraded while i posted ...
(and libsystemd was installed while doing so ... i am too old for this shit).
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## Re: refracta or devuan or based isos

Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:11 pm

[email protected]
:/home/user# apt show upgradable
N: Unable to locate package upgradable
N: Unable to locate package upgradable
E: No packages found
[email protected]
:/home/user# dpkg -l | grep systemd
ii libsystemd0:i386 231-4 i386 systemd utility library
[email protected]
:/home/user# aptitude why libsystemd0
i xserver-xephyr Depends libsystemd0
[email protected]
:/home/user#
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## Re: refracta or devuan or based isos

Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:33 pm

[quote="nadir"]i am too old for this ****).
Tell me about it . . . !!!
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## Re: refracta or devuan or based isos

Fri Sep 30, 2016 10:28 pm

Just xserver-xephyr needs lsd0? That's good to hear. I thought all of xorg wanted it.
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## Re: refracta or devuan or based isos

Fri Sep 30, 2016 10:59 pm

k, that went south.
I can't startx as a user anymore, but i can as root. I created a test-account, same problem:
[email protected]
:/home/dude# grep EE /home/dude/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[ 65.494] (EE) systemd-logind: failed to get session: The name org.freedesktop.login1 was not provided by any .service files
[ 65.532] (EE) modeset(0): drmSetMaster failed: Permission denied
[ 65.532] (EE)
[ 65.532] (EE) AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0
[ 65.532] (EE)
[ 65.532] (EE)
[ 65.532] (EE) Please also check the log file at "/home/dude/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log" for additional information.
[ 65.532] (EE)
[ 65.538] (EE) Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file.
[email protected]
:/home/dude#
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