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## wheezy-based refracta beta2 bugs, discuss, kudos, whatevah

Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:42 pm

I didn't see a mega-thread for bugs and such so I am starting one. Fell free to move, remove, or merge somewhere else.
So what do you think of beta2?
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## Re: wheezy-based refracta beta2 bugs, discuss, kudos, whatev

Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:58 pm

I get etc/fstab errors when booting live. Need to touch etc/fstab or some jiggery pokery
The gtk2/gtk3 theme issue is still present although changed. For example the scrollbar and menu of geany compared to the scrollbar and menu in abiword.
Oddly enough the greybird theme isn't even consistent this time. Aggravating....and ridiculous...
But not a showstopper by any means and probably not anything to even waste time on.
I hate to say it, but dang that top panel is crowded. Yea, I think I complained about having two panels taking up space but considering how crowded the top one is maybe two is the wiser choice. Of course a user can tweak this so not a big concern either.
Haven't run into anything else(yet). Overall it looks good to me (except the fstab thingy), not too geeky and not too Aunt Martha.
Almost forgot....thank you fsmithred for all the work you do!
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## Re: wheezy-based refracta beta2 bugs, discuss, kudos, whatev

Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:54 am

> thank you fsmithred for all the work you do!

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+1
Testing here on a Lenovo 3000 with UK keyboard. Using live-usb with syslinux, also tested from squash on HD. it looks great but...
"uiop" types as "456*" regardless if us,uk or de keyboard is set from xfce. Some other keys are also wrong. That machine only, others here.are OK booted from the same device. X closed or not.
That does not happen with a sid snapshot done last week nor any other system used here. Till this is fixed beta2 is unusable for the lenovo. If nobody has a solution I will try to find it (but don't know where to start)
Is a package missing? (possible downside of "no-install-recommends")
At the moment I'm finding wheezy more difficult to work with than sid. Example: the live-boot stuff in wheezy is half-baked and stays that way for a long time.
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## Re: wheezy-based refracta beta2 bugs, discuss, kudos, whatev

Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:52 am

> "uiop" types as "456*"

That sounds like numlock is on...
At least that is what I get if I turn on numlock and hit those keys on my lenovo r61e
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## Re: wheezy-based refracta beta2 bugs, discuss, kudos, whatev

Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:11 am

In order to have suspend hibernate appear on the lightdm logout options, xfce4-power-manager needs to be installed in addition to pm-utils.
The funky x issues were caused by compositing being on by default. You might want to disable that option by default for users with older hardware.
How about a timezone option during the install. It was like I was back on DST and took me a while to realize it!
Liked the option for labels in fstab BTW.
Thanks for this great little distro!!
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## Re: wheezy-based refracta beta2 bugs, discuss, kudos, whatev

Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:22 am

1) fast.
2) pacpl and abcde might be added ?
addblock might be added.
3) default theme is good.
4) rms is proud, but what is more important: i am proud too
That's all i can say. Good, like usual. More once i used it more.
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## Re: wheezy-based refracta beta2 bugs, discuss, kudos, whatev

Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:09 pm

Thanks Dean, found the keyboard bug:

Code:
  `grep -ir numlock .
  ./.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/keyboards.xml: <property name="Numlock" type="bool" value="true"/>`

It's being set by xfce at login. That might be convenient for some setups but not here, however I can turn it off manually (FN+numlock)
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Other notes:
compositor is on by default. Not good for low-end machines or suspect graphics cards:

Code:
  `[email protected]
  :~$ grep -ir compos .
  ./.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfwm4.xml: <property name="use_compositing" type="bool" value="true"/>`

New boot with only a terminal open:

Code:
  `[email protected]
  :~$ free
  total used free shared buffers cached
  Mem: 1024852 361344 663508 0 45968 232040
  -/+ buffers/cache: 83336 941516
  Swap: 0 0 0`

(personal preference only) White text on desktop is easier to read
There seems to be no network utility. What happened to wicd? I read somewhere it doesn't work properly but it does on my sid snapshot.
Would be useful if "user" was in adm group to read (some) log files:

Code:
  `[email protected]
  :~$ cat /var/log/boot
  cat: /var/log/boot: Permission denied`

My cmdline:

Code:
  `[email protected]
  :~$ cat /proc/cmdline
  boot=live initrd=/refracta/initrd.img bootfrom=removable live-media-path=/refracta union=aufs quiet showmounts noprompt vga=791 config=locales locales=en_GB.UTF-8 BOOT_IMAGE=/refracta/vmlinuz`

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## Re: wheezy-based refracta beta2 bugs, discuss, kudos, whatev

Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:21 pm

I thought I fixed the missing fstab problem, but the fix only made it to the cli version of the snapshot script. 9.0.7-1 and beta3 coming soon.
Yes, Dean, you're one of the people who complained about there being two panels, so now I'm used to using one panel. I figure that 'right-click --> Remove' is easier than adding stuff, so...
Feel free to play with the desktop themes or try others or tell me which ones suck.
After adding xfce4-power-manager and pm-utils, I get the hibernate button, but not the suspend button. Is there something else I need to do?
Compositing is on because transparency in xfce4-terminal doesn't work. I recall the same problem when squeeze was in testing, and I hope it gets fixed. Compositing eats up memory, and I think you're right that it should be disabled.
Timezone option could possibly be added to the installer. There is a utility for that in the System menu. Maybe I can figure out how make stuff happen on the first run of the desktop. You mentioned that before.
I could add abcde, as it's small, but what is pacpi? I have mixed feelings about adblock. Many free websites depend upon advertising for their funding. As it is, noscript can block the obnoxious flashy ads. I may or may not tweak some browser setting. Haven't messed with that much so far.
I haven't been good in the past couple of months about keeping notes to myself on what needs to be done, so I'm sure I missed other stuff.
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## Re: wheezy-based refracta beta2 bugs, discuss, kudos, whatev

Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:01 pm

The system wants to see fstab but it doesn't exist... live-boot now uses a file in fstab. d instead of creating fstab on boot. I get the same in sid live builds not done from Refracta or snapshot. Live-boot is still half-baked. Maybe there will be a proper "upstream" fix; the errors are annoying but seem to do no harm.
If you want timezone set in live session put (example) config=tzdata timezone=Europe/London in cmdline
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## Re: wheezy-based refracta beta2 bugs, discuss, kudos, whatev

Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:27 pm

pacpl (with a lower L(evel), not a lower I(cons) ) is a cli audio converter, written in perl.
It is as easy as:
pacpl -to ogg *wav
Main advantage is that it is cli.
http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/pacpl
I ain't got mixed feelings about adblock. I am not interested in advertising, and i don't care who pays what with it.
That said: i think i see the point. I always install it instantly and that is why i mentioned it (without thinking about that point).
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