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## Going with the systemd flow . . . or not?

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### Re: Going with the systemd flow . . . or not?

by anticapitalista » Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:22 pm

How about the ones in the antiX jessie/nosystemd repo?
http://antix.daveserver.info/jessie/poo ... md/c/cups/

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### Re: Going with the systemd flow . . . or not?

by fsmithred » Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:49 pm

anti - I can try yours later. The filenames look like they're from angband, but they're newer versions than what I see in angband (-11 vs. -10).
Is this right? I add that line to sources list, added that key and updated. It hits that url, but then 'apt-cache policy' doesn't show any cups packages from the antix repo.
DB36CDF3452F0C20
deb http://antix.daveserver.info/jessie jessie main

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### Re: Going with the systemd flow . . . or not?

by anticapitalista » Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:40 pm

deb http://antix.daveserver.info/jessie jessie main nosystemd
and they are antiX built debs.
apt-show-versions cups
cups:amd64/testing 1.7.5-11.0nosystemd1 uptodate

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### Re: Going with the systemd flow . . . or not?

by fsmithred » Mon Jun 08, 2015 11:01 pm

Looks like it's installing. I had to remove angband and exegnu from sources.list, then use aptitude and take the second choice it offered (downgrade libcups2 and libcupsimage2). Your versions were lower than the angband versions. (1.7.5-11.0nosystemd1 vs 1:1.7.5-11.0nosystemd1)
Need to reboot into that system now to see if it works.

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### Re: Going with the systemd flow . . . or not?

by fsmithred » Mon Jun 08, 2015 11:13 pm

anti, yours works, too. One thing I noticed that's different is on the printer mainenance page. Instead of just selecting Print Test Page from the drop-down menu, there's a Go button to click. I don't recall seeing that in dzz's build.
Somebody want to write up a howto for repackaging? I suspect the number of packages that depend on systemd will continue to increase for awhile.
Edit: Upgraded to the exegnu versions, and the Go buttons are there. Not sure how I missed them before.

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### Re: Going with the systemd flow . . . or not?

by dzz » Tue Jun 09, 2015 5:53 pm

Thanks anti for your nosystemd debs. Please could you post the debian.tar.xz source for your cups build? It would be interesting to diff it against mine.
I'm new to packaging so not my place to write a howto. I started out of necessity and determination but have had a reasonable degree of success. The need for 3rd-party debs is decreasing for devuan users.
Whatever mainstream debian does is up to them. Those of us who don't accept that direction will find (or create) alternatives.
A "test" amd64 iso is now posted here: http://www.exegnulinux.net/refracta/iso/
This one is a clean (devuan-) bootstrap build, again with refracta7-based ui configs. It has systemd udev but I built another with eudev, can post that later. There doesn't seem much else to do to improve it except minor tweaks, documentation and any important missing packages (there is room for more).
A reminder of how good the refracta stuff actually is: the first iso spin without the refracta xfce4 configs was (imo) butt-ugly.
EDIT: eudev iso is done: http://www.exegnulinux.net/refracta/iso/eudev/

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### Re: Going with the systemd flow . . . or not?

by fsmithred » Sun Jul 19, 2015 4:25 pm

Just tried the eudev iso, and it seems to work. I put it on a usb stick and booted on hardware. Couldn't get online with my pci wireless card, because it needs non-free firmware. Plugged in a usb wireless interface and got it up quickly in wicd. Had some confusion with interface names - ifconfig shows the new names (enp-blah) but I had to use the old name with the usb interface (wlan1).
Also plugged in a second usb stick, and it comes up on the desktop, mounts and ejects normally.
Anything else I should try?

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### Re: Going with the systemd flow . . . or not?

by fsmithred » Mon Nov 09, 2015 1:47 pm

No! (To answer the original question in this thread.)
refracta-8-jessie-based-on-devuan-t529.html

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### Re: Going with the systemd flow . . . or not?

by golinux » Mon Nov 09, 2015 2:42 pm

I have posted that link in several places since you posted that thread. Great contribution! Nice to have a solid derivative already. You getting many downloads?
May the FORK be with you!

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### Re: Going with the systemd flow . . . or not?

by fsmithred » Mon Nov 09, 2015 3:49 pm

Yeah, there was a surge in downloads the last few weeks, and it peaked at 395/week sometime around a week ago. It's settled back down below 200. Looks to me like there's a group of people who keep an eye on it and get new stuff when it goes up. I'm not getting any complaints, so I assume that nothing is seriously broken.

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