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## "New" hardware. Thanks, fig!

Mon Jun 06, 2016 9:45 pm

figlfdev donated a laptop (most of one, anyway) to the cause. This one is new enough to have uefi, so I now can test on real hardware. And I have tested. A multiboot-usb that has efi files added from a snapshot that was made with the test version of refractansaphost works. Actually, two different usbs made from two different isos booted with uefi.
fig, that second usb needed /isolinux/isolinux.cfg, and I forgot to add that. It's only used for grub to find the root of the device, so it can be empty, but it must be there.
I'll continue the technical discussion over in the Discuss section after I do some more testing. I just wanted to post this and say "Thanks" to figlfdev. This is a big help.
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## Re: "New" hardware. Thanks, fig!

Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:19 pm

More ice cream for figlfdev!
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## Re: "New" hardware. Thanks, fig!

Tue Jun 07, 2016 3:39 am

and all jaromil and hellekin got was money
seriously though, im not kidding when i say its an honor to give a little help to refracta. youre most welcome!
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## Re: "New" hardware. Thanks, fig!

Tue Jun 07, 2016 3:12 pm

> figlfdev wrote:and all jaromil and hellekin got was money

That's a rather snarky comment. And something that an unfriendly could use in a negative way to bash devuan. Wouldn't want to find it on shitdevuansays.
figlfdev

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## Re: "New" hardware. Thanks, fig!

Tue Jun 07, 2016 3:24 pm

> golinux wrote:

> > figlfdev wrote:and all jaromil and hellekin got was money

> That's a rather snarky comment. And something that an unfriendly could use in a negative way to bash devuan. Wouldn't want to find it on shitdevuansays.

it really isnt-- the fact is, i gave to both projects what i thought they needed. software in the public interest (debian) also got money at one point, (i could say something *truly* snarky about that.)
i do regret that this tongue-in-cheek example of why i shouldnt do stand-up for a living could be taken a variety of ways, least of all the playful way it was meant. but i think the best course is probably to clarify and move on. i considered deleting it, but its not THAT bad.
i would think twice before saying something like that in the future. but im not about to triple-second-guess myself because of some weird little twitter page. THOSE guys are freaking snarky, and they are doing it on purpose. (if they have dubious intentions, i think theyre doing us more good than harm-- even if its by a nose.)
in the future i will try to think of these things BEFORE posting. (and i already do; this should help)
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## Re: "New" hardware. Thanks, fig!

Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:49 am

Hey fig, did you mention something about the laptop being haunted, or am I having a false memory?
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## Re: "New" hardware. Thanks, fig!

Sun Jun 26, 2016 6:29 am

> fsmithred wrote:did you mention something about the laptop being haunted

that was a joke about the factory default keyboard, and the reason it no longer had one (and required a usb keyboard instead.)
hopefully it should not give you any other trouble. i took the hdd out because it had data on it, but you should have the tray for putting one in.
is this about the trouble doing squashfs? if so i feel badly, but i promise that ive told you known issues already.
my hope of course was that it would help you with your uefi images, and with the faster-than-anything-i-own processor (and a ton of ram) i also hope it will serve many useful purposes, though i still feel good if it helps with the uefi. i hope you figure out the new issue, though its a mystery to me.
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## Re: "New" hardware. Thanks, fig!

Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:55 am

No problem squashing - I can make a snapshot in less than a quarter of the time it takes on my old computer. I'm getting inconsistent behavior of the usb ports. Several old hard drives will work when I connect them with adapters for usb - sometimes. Wiggling the usb plug in the port does not make and break the connection as I would expect it to do with loose connectors. And sometimes the system sees the hard drive after I boot with a thumb drive, but it didn't see the hard drive at boot. It's also possible the problem is with the adapters.
I'm planning to put a real hard drive inside it some time in the next few days. Need to see how uefi treats that differently from a removable drive. I've already done several uefi installs on the removables. The commands to do the install are not too complicated. The hard part will be getting the script to automatically decide what needs to be done. And it may end up being a non-automatic decision. That way, if someone blows away their windows bootloader, it was their choice, not mine.
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## Re: "New" hardware. Thanks, fig!

Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:39 pm

oh, okay. the following advice is for any laptop that has usb 3 ports, or mixes usb 3 and usb 2:
be careful with usb 3 ports. unlike other usb ports, they are blue in color.
usb 3 and usb 2 are supposed to know when to supply more or less current (usb 3 can do more.) mixing usb 3 ports and devices and usb 2 ports and chargers should work (or at least fail in a safe way) most of the time.
the exceptions can leave you with non-working usb 3 ports, or non-working usb 2 (or possibly 3) devices.
there shouldnt be exceptions, but ive read about them. hence my advice is avoid blue usb ports whenever you can, except when you have a known usb 3 device. use the black ports for your usb keys and mouse and keyboard. this is general advice, paired with "learn more about this." its NOT something you should have to think about, but im only impressed with usb 3's ambitions; the implementation is extremely disappointing.
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