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EvilDairyProduct

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## Re: 6.0.4 wishlist

Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:16 pm

One thing I believe most of us install manually is ps_mem.py... Maybe that would be a nice touch?
I'm partial to skipping the big fat office suite in the interest of keeping the install lean.
I'm also a huge terminator fanboy and would love to see it as the default terminal emulator.
Any thoughts on icons and themes to dress it up a little bit?
mharrison

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## Re: 6.0.4 wishlist

Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:31 pm

Well, I for one have never and have no plans to use ps_mem.py.....I understand about not wanting a big fat office suite, but as a desktop user, I use spreadsheets a ton, and since it clearly states on the Refracta page that it is designed with the home desktop user in mind, I don't think a wish for a spreadsheet application already there is detrimental to a lean install. GNumeric isn't that big.
EvilDairyProduct

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## Re: 6.0.4 wishlist

Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:34 pm

There should definitely be one application per task at a minimum. That includes office programs.
mharrison

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## Re: 6.0.4 wishlist

Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:45 pm

> EvilDairyProduct wrote:There should definitely be one application per task at a minimum. That includes office programs.

So are you saying then that AbiWord covers the entire Office Programs spectrum then?
EvilDairyProduct

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## Re: 6.0.4 wishlist

Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:28 pm

No... I am doing a clean install today and am going to pay attention better to the default package selection so I can make a better informed comment. All I know is libreoffice is pretty bulky- BUT I do install all of it anyway after the fact.
My you are combative today!
mharrison

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## Re: 6.0.4 wishlist

Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:37 pm

[quote="EvilDairyProduct"]No... I am doing a clean install today and am going to pay attention better to the default package selection so I can make a better informed comment. All I know is libreoffice is pretty bulky- BUT I do install all of it anyway after the fact.
My you are combative today!
Not combative, just feel like we all need to **** or get off the pot. I resolved to make sure that I get my points across and try to stop the endless debates and get straight to the point. I only mentioned LibreOffice because I know that it is one of the main office suites. I did also say the rest of gnome-office could be installed, which includes Gnumeric....some of the pieces can be left out if needed, as I have never had a use for Inkscape, but I am not a graphics person so maybe a graphics person would want it included.
EvilDairyProduct

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## Re: 6.0.4 wishlist

Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:56 pm

I usually install Inkscape, but generally GIMP is more than sufficient for 99% of my needs. I install a lot of **** I probably don't need, though. I just checked the depends on gnumeric and abiword and it looks like they would be pretty light for a Xfce build. So... as far as office suites go, would it be better to just go with libreoffice? Like I said, I install it regardless and think that is a pretty common practice.
Where's the code monkey?
mharrison

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## Re: 6.0.4 wishlist

Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:01 pm

I suggested Gnome Office because it is pretty light on everything. Libre is fine with me too, as I use it at home. Either way, I feel that the inclusion of at least a few more pieces of office software is warranted.
fsmithred

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## Re: 6.0.4 wishlist

Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:12 am

I have this debate with myself every time I make a debian-live build. I usually end up with abiword and gnumeric, but I prefer to have the full office suite (OOo/Libre). Part of that is so I can open the pps files that people send me. There's an alternative for that, but it requires wine.
There's a possibility that we'll end up with two builds - lean and bloat. I've been trying out some of the native xfce apps that I don't generally use, like ristretto for an image viewer and squeeze for an archiver, and so far, I still like gthumb and xarchiver better. I was experimenting with xfburn, and it seemed ok, but my dvd drive refuses to create any media with a proper md5sum, so I've given up on it. I'm also about out of media and see no point in buying more, since it's more expensive than hard drives.
Themes: I use a slightly customized Simple-Generic theme (from LXDE) on my desktop. I discovered that the lxde themes can be included without installing lxde. The only customization is that there's no color box around the text on the desktop icons. That happened as a result of a conversation with Dean at the old forum. Anyway, it's mostly gray, and it's a nicer gray than the XFCE-4.4 theme. Gray goes with any color background image, and I'm sick of looking at blue desktops. Green is out, too, because I got sick of that back when I used suse. And brown is just wrong.
Artwork: I have a good friend who's an artist, so I might recruit her for some backgrounds and maybe icons. I usually steal my own backgrounds from APOD or wunderground.com, but most of those are copyrighted, so I wouldn't feel right distributing them. If anyone is a photographer, I'd like some nice photos of the milky way or Orion or some meteor showers.
ps_mem.py: Yes, and probably a few of my own, like flashfire (burn flash cookies) and netinfo (shows local and external IP addresses) and taskfer (command-line todo-list manager).
Release notes: with a link on the desktop.
meandean

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## Re: 6.0.4 wishlist

Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:31 am

> fsmithred wrote: I'd like some nice photos of the milky way or Orion or some meteor showers.

http://www.nasaimages.org/index.html
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