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fsmithred

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## Re: Statistics - Somebody say something, please.

Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:56 pm

> ukbrian wrote:I posted earlier about using a variable for the partition label and etc/default/grub entry and this might be a way of doing that and also for the name of the snapshot... I think I might be able to convert snapshot to use a file for all it's text just to prove the method.

I've thought about using a variable for the distro name inside the isolinux boot menu. I think I could do that by reading a template of the file into place and having the variable in the template. Never got around to trying it, though. The mechanism for replacing the distro name already exists - there's a config for the iso directory in refractasnapshot, so you can replace the boot menu and help files with whatever you want. Or you can edit the boot menu on the fly.
Edit: The name of the snapshot.iso is already a variable. You can change it in etc/refractasnapshot.conf. The date/time stamp is in the code, but you can change that to just a single number 1, 2, 3 for successive snapshots. Also in the config file. Comment out stamp="datetime" for that.
For grub, it's just a matter of editing the files on the running CD before you make the snapshot. (Or learning about and messing with lsb-release.)

> NOTE
> If I put a slash in front of etc/default/grub I get a 404 when I preview.

We're aware of the etc bug. It went away for awhile, but now it's back. Apparently, it's a paranoid security feature that I can't control.

> Is it possible to pass coordinates to yad so the windows don't open in the center all the time? it doesn't matter with snapshot/installer but I've been messing about with Anthony's Yad Ducky script doing a prototype menuing system but I'd like the screens to open at the bottom right corner as in this snapshot.
> http://lin.me.uk/refracta/refracta-desktop-3.png

From 'man yad'

Code:
  `--geometry=WIDTHxHEIGHT+X+Y
  Use standard X Window geometry notation for placing dialog. When this option is
  used, width, height, mouse and center options are ignored.`

> @fsr
> Is there a way to lock the focus into the snapshot screen when the snapshot is taking place to prevent the user doing other things.

I don't know, and I'm inclined to allow the user the freedom to do whatever they want, including hanging themselves.
@nadir
Plain text scripts on github will probably happen some time. I haven't decided what I'm going to do with the way we're using github, but something will surely change. I don't think we need to keep the deb files there - most people already know how to download files in a browser, so that's easier than updating the github clone in a terminal. I probaby need to make a new repo, and leave the current one alone for awhile (approximately until everyone is done with wheezy.)
Link to the unofficial sid-based refracta: http://exegnulinux.net/refracta/iso/
I got the 131004 version, and I'm pretty sure that's the one dzz recommended. I'm not opposed to putting up an announcement for that. dzz, you got any objections?
Also, I plan to put up a sid-based iso before the end of the year. The one I'm running now (in vbox) doesn't have all the usual packages installed, and I'll probably keep it that way for awhile.
Then more will come when jessie freezes.
nadir

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## Re: Statistics - Somebody say something, please.

Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:12 pm

This way or that way for a plain-text is fine for me. Anything which doesn't give you work or headaches (if in doubt not at all).
Without thinking much:
I think if you:
1) create the new repo _and
2) add the debian/ folder from packaging to your git-repo than
3) people can download the tar.gz or zip or simply git-clone and use git-buildpackage or dpkg-buildpackage
(That sure comes with some headaches, the usual packagin ****, but would be a pretty sexy solution).
It would also help someone who might want to get it into debian repos (that someone might be you, for example).
That is really just chat, some loose ideas.
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As far sid is concerned: If i find a new PC in the garbage (or get one from a friend) and stable doesn't boot, then a sidCD helps.
Otoh: it rather happens seldom.
I think it would be nice to have one, but not more (for several reasons, one being the extra work sid offers).
thwak

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## Re: Statistics - Somebody say something, please.

Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:16 pm

> --geometry=WIDTHxHEIGHT+X+Y

Brian, if you want bottom-right, use minus signs (not plus signs) to specify the offset, e.g.
WIDTHxHEIGHT-0-0
or
WIDTHxHEIGHT-1-1
Without considerable offset, I wonder whether the dialog might be obscured by a non-autohiding bottom taskbar
ukbrian

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## Re: Statistics - Somebody say something, please.

Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:43 pm

I am aware of what you can do in the setup/config files thanks

> For grub, it's just a matter of editing the files on the running CD before you make the snapshot. (Or learning about and messing with lsb-release.)

I started doing that but remembering to change it back after the snapshot was a hastle. It's much better to change the grub file when your running the live CD or during the install when you set the partition label which I've been doing for a few weeks and it works very well having the partition label and the grub entry identical.
How's this for the ISO desktop
thwak

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## Re: Statistics - Somebody say something, please.

Sun Dec 29, 2013 6:25 am

> thwak wrote:I'll just mention that I wish zipfiles (vs just debs) were available for the refracta tools
> https://github.com/fsmithred/refracta

Hey, that sounds like a good idea.
(if individual sourcefiles are posted to github, can be easily browsed individually or downloaded en masse as a zipfile)
{crickets}
as is, stuff is scattered across sourceforge, github, and ibiblio
distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/file ... 0.9.4p.deb
fsmithred

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## Re: Statistics - Somebody say something, please.

Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:57 pm

The plan is to eventually stop using github as a repository for deb files, and let it mirror my local build directory, so that all the files used to make the debs will be there. Then, you can download individual files or clone part or all of the repo.
Sourceforge has stable versions, ibiblio has the testing versions. I'm keeping them separate partly to stay below disk quotas. Right now, that doesn't really matter, but I promised to upload a sid version of refracta before the end of the year, which is the day after tomorrow. Then it'll matter.
nadir

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## Re: Statistics - Somebody say something, please.

Fri Jan 03, 2014 5:24 pm

I think it would be very good to post the links which are important in the announcement subforum.
I often got hard times to figure out what is where.
I think a link to the tools/remixes/etc of dzz should be added there too (perhaps in a thread on it's own).
Perhaps it is my problem, but i really got so search quite a time until i find something, then am not sure if it is the actual version.
Just something you (both) might consider, aka a proposal. It might well be it is way more easy than it looks to me (it might be i oversee something obvious).
golinux

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## Re: Statistics - Somebody say something, please.

Fri Jan 03, 2014 5:37 pm

Hey remember me? LOL!! I also get confused by what is where. Maintaining and updating a website is-not-fun (as I'm sure fsmithred now understands). Am about to ask some questions in a new thread as I FINALLY have all my media apps working (stevepusser is a magician) and will be wanting to move my refracta install from a test machine to my newer 'working' box. It's good to be back and have a 100% media-functional refracta.
meandean

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## Re: Statistics - Somebody say something, please.

Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:08 pm

> fsmithred wrote:.... you may not speak or write well in English,

I seem to suck at speaking even when I use english...go figure...
I peek in every few days, sadly I dont understand half of what is going on, but it looks like you guys are having fun, so keep on keepin on...
nadir

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## Re: Statistics - Somebody say something, please.

Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:44 pm

> meandean wrote:I peek in every few days, sadly I dont understand half of what is going on, but it looks like you guys are having fun, so keep on keepin on...

Same problem here. lol.
Regarding the problem from above:
I found this as a sticky in announcements:
refracta-t3.html
which links to in-libido:
http://www.ibiblio.org/refracta/
which links to the download location:
http://www.ibiblio.org/refracta/downloads.html
I think that is what i asked for, and what i simply missed (perhaps it has changed during the upgrade of the webpage, i don't know).
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