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meandean

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## 6.0.4 wishlist

Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:52 pm

6.0.4 is delayed to re-work some stuff...
my wishlist.....
get rhythmbox out of the systray
remove systray?
remove system tools menu and move items to the control center
remove flash and java
add fsr tool for user to easily install java, flash, and firmware
add fsr installer for those geekily inclined
add renamer utility
add mp3tagger
add some games?
mod the refracta-snapshot tool to use less disk space and create a hybrid image
mod the refracta-installer to require less clicks
add some kind of refracta_version file maybe?
sane sudo config
more responsive desktop (nice levels maybe....kernel tweaks maybe....)
nicer wicd icon
xorg tool?
simple network tool instead of wicd?
will think of more later
nadir

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## Re: 6.0.4 wishlist

Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:10 pm

small window-manager ( in case one runs it as live-CD on very low specs).
- icewm
enlightenment would be a killer, but i guess to much of fiddling.
applications (not those apps, but some which do something like that):
- pidgin or xhcat
- deluge
- artha or another dic
- terminal set to black or dark background
cli applications:
I think most i use daily are in play already:
- rsync
- ssh
- vim
- screen
- irssi
- lynx
- feh
- scrot
other:
- fsmithred github-refracta-directory., if possible as a git repo.
- more bookmarks for iceweasel
- i am bad with multimedia: what about gecko-mediaplayer.
All that said:
the last release i have seen and tested was fine.
What i listed are the things _i change or do, not a necessity.
fsmithred

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## Re: 6.0.4 wishlist

Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:48 am

> add fsr tool for user to easily install java, flash, and firmware

It needs to accumulate some package groups - that is, lists of packages that you would install together. They don't need to contain all the dependencies, because those will be pulled automatically.
Packages should be on one line, separated by a space. If someone puts together a package group, they could optionally give a name to it, and put the group in parentheses. All I have so far are the ones I used for testing, as follows:

Code:
  `dvd_set=(libdvdcss2 libdvdnav4 libdvdread4)
  file_share=(samba smbfs smbclient)
  graphics=(gimp blender inkscape)
  mousepad=(mousepad)`

(Note: only reason mousepad is there all alone is because I wanted to make sure it worked with single packages.

> add fsr installer for those geekily inclined
> add renamer utility

These two are engaged to be married. They're still working out the details. You will be invited to the reception. (actually, you're going to get tricked into doing some of the work preparing for the party.)
fsmithred

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## Re: 6.0.4 wishlist

Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:56 am

Anyone beside me like vlc for a media player?
I'd sure like it if openssh-server got included, but maybe it's not such a good idea to have a service like that running by default. Any way to turn it off so that it doesn't get turned on when there's an upgrade? (I've had problems keeping samba and maybe apache turned off. Gotta watch out for upgrades to those packages. Never tried to turn ssh off to see if the same happens with that. And by "off" I mean removing all the rc links with update-rc.d or sysv-rc-conf)
EvilDairyProduct

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## Re: 6.0.4 wishlist

Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:59 am

I use vlc all the time. Never had any problem with it and like the interface.
nadir

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## Re: 6.0.4 wishlist

Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:56 am

New situation, so here are ideas i would not have proposed earlier:
a) rescue tools, as much as possible (for example):
cryptsetup, testdisk, ophcrack, zenmap, gftp, sshfs, you got the idea.
b) at minimum one small window-manager. I got the configs of icewm of an old refracta version.
We could use that one (trying to catch the spirit of Dean).
c) geany and audacious
same reason like b.
d) as many cli-counterparts of gui apps as possible.
e) where there is editing, there is vim.
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PS: in case not clear:
My idea is to keep the actual refracta version: 6.0.3
At the same time create a new version, which is less for AuntMartha, and more for us (aunt marthas nephews, so to speak).
fsmithred

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## Re: 6.0.4 wishlist

Mon Mar 21, 2011 5:08 pm

> nadir wrote:New situation, so here are ideas i would not have proposed earlier:
> a) rescue tools, as much as possible (for example):
> cryptsetup, testdisk, ophcrack, zenmap, gftp, sshfs, you got the idea.

Here are some of the packages I included in my last build. I started splitting them up into packagelist files instead of having a huge string of individual packages on the 'lb config' line. I thought they might be easier to manage that way, plus, I wanted to try building with packagelist files.
Let me know if there's something you think should be added or removed. I see you listed ophcrack, and I think that's the only one I didn't include. (gftp is on another list - these are just command-line tools)

Code:
  `# config/chroot_local-packageslists/fs_extras.list
  lvm2 cryptsetup
  sshfs fuse-utils ntfs-3g smbfs
  squashfs-tools
  dosfstools ntfsprogs
  pmount
  bzip2
  # config/chroot_local-packageslists/hw_tools.list
  lshw
  hwinfo
  smartmontools
  lm-sensors
  hddtemp
  hdparm
  sdparm
  read-edid
  hardinfo
  testdisk
  gdmap
  fdupes
  # config/chroot_local-packageslists/net_tools.list
  openssh-server
  whois
  w3m
  irssi
  iftop
  iptraf
  zenmap
  ethtool
  wicd
  pppoeconf`

(note: Some of those might not be necessary in the gnome version - I've been building with xfce4.)

> b) at minimum one small window-manager. I got the configs of icewm of an old refracta version.
> We could use that one (trying to catch the spirit of Dean).

At some point (not yet) I'll ask you to send me the desktop config files for that. It's been awhile, but I recall that it's pretty easy to edit the configs for icewm.

> c) geany and audacious
> same reason like b.

And because they're good apps. Would you mind if I changed the geany icon to something else?
d) see above

> e) where there is editing, there is vim.

OK, but we need to talk. I'm a little confused on the different versions of vim and how the symlinks get arranged in debian.
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> PS: in case not clear:
> My idea is to keep the actual refracta version: 6.0.3
> At the same time create a new version, which is less for AuntMartha, and more for us (aunt marthas nephews, so to speak).

Are you opposed to having xfce4 instead of gnome in the geek nephew version? Or are you thinking of icewm for the main desktop? (I think both would fit - the uncompressed size is less than 2mb.)
mharrison

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## Re: 6.0.4 wishlist

Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:43 pm

XFCE, and the version is My Dog Smells Good.
nadir

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## Re: 6.0.4 wishlist

Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:44 pm

no, xfce is fine.
vim for cli is easy: it is called vim.
if you install it the rest is done by debian magic. no need to do anything
(about the gui-versions of vim i don't know).
yes, the geany icon is awful.
For me it is more easy if you offer it, i use it, make notes about what i miss.
Most of the apps i don't know from the top of my head
(Example: yesterday i had to install tree).
more later, i'm in a hurry.
but it looks good.
PS: in deed i think: "my dog smells good" is a good release name.
but i think that any release name is good. Makes it more easy to know which version one talks about (4.5.6, 3.002, 6.01 and similar is hard to remember)
mharrison

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## Re: 6.0.4 wishlist

Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:01 pm

Also wondering, was AbiWord just included for sheer space saving purposes, or is there a reason not to include an office suite such as LibreOffice, or even the rest of the Gnome Office package?
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