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fsmithred

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## Pale Moon?

Thu Nov 19, 2015 4:27 pm

The weasel now wants to suggest favorite websites, and it no longer lets me choose how many websites show up on the new tab page. After the last couple of updates on wheezy, I downgraded to an older version. I'm getting tired of that, so I'm trying Pale Moon, and I'm considering changing the browser in Refracta. Firefox add-ons work with it. I'd probably just put it in the user's home directory, so it would be easy to update it.
Opinions and suggestions are welcome.
Don't bother suggesting Chrome or Chromium.
golinux

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## Re: Pale Moon?

Thu Nov 19, 2015 4:46 pm

> fsmithred wrote:The weasel now wants to suggest favorite websites, and it no longer lets me choose how many websites show up on the new tab page. After the last couple of updates on wheezy, I downgraded to an older version. I'm getting tired of that, so I'm trying Pale Moon, and I'm considering changing the browser in Refracta. Firefox add-ons work with it. I'd probably just put it in the user's home directory, so it would be easy to update it.
> Opinions and suggestions are welcome.
> Don't bother suggesting Chrome or Chromium.

Don't know whether you keep up with Mozillazine. This thread was quite disturbing. It looks like FF will soon go the way of the dodo if a user wants to tweak much of anything. So yes, let's give Pale Moon a spin! Why not install it in /opt? I would never think to install an app like that into /home.
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nadir

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## Re: Pale Moon?

Thu Nov 19, 2015 5:19 pm

Of course a good idea.
That said: As of now no other browser convinced me.
I could get rid of the websites by closing all of them after opening a new tab.
Installing palemoon to have a look at it.
fsmithred

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## Re: Pale Moon?

Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:07 am

In the user's home is easier. You don't really install it, anyway. Just unpack it and run it. And the user can easily download and unpack whenever there's a newer version. I've done that in the past with firefox in live builds (pre-refracta).
Forgot to mention my other complaint about iceweasel. I noticed a couple months ago that private browsing doesn't work if you have a non-private window open. And I noticed more recently that private browsing doesn't work. I haven't done much testing. Just saw that it failed and got pissed off. (angry, not intoxicated.) Anyone else having a problem with that, or did I mess up my config?
thwak

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## Re: Pale Moon?

Fri Nov 20, 2015 8:28 am

currently, PaleMoon may be the best alternative.
Have you test driven either of these?
http://www.qupzilla.com
http://otter-browser.org
both are QT5, both projects host their code on github.
When I last tested qupzilla (summer), it didn't handle youtube videos.
Otter, I've repeatedly tested the win32 version (under winXP+sandboxie), last was 3-4wks ago.
It was syrupy slow (QT5 windows libs?) and immediately bogged the CPU. I yet haven't tested otter under linux though.
nadir

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## Re: Pale Moon?

Fri Nov 20, 2015 2:07 pm

Not yet.
user$ slapt-get --search otter
gnuplot-4.6.3-i486-1 [inst=no]: gnuplot (plotting utility)
kmplot-4.10.5-i486-1 [inst=no]: kmplot (a mathematical function plotter)
user$ slapt-get --search qupzilla
qupzilla-1.6.1-i486-1dj [inst=no]: qupzilla (lightweight web browser)
user$ slapt-src --search otter
mlbrot:1.00 - mlbrot (Mandelbrot set plotter and exploration tool)
otter:0.9.07 - otter (Web browser)
user$
Since Debian gave up on me i am busy learning the most easy things ... oh my.
golinux

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## Re: Pale Moon?

Fri Nov 20, 2015 3:00 pm

Mandelbrot? Very cool!
fsmithred

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## Re: Pale Moon?

Fri Nov 20, 2015 3:48 pm

Did a little testing.
Mouse scroll wheel won't work for me in otter. It scrolls down a little and bounces up.
Qupzilla looks better than the last time I checked it, which was at least a couple years ago. And it's in the repo.
Neither seems to work with html5. I didn't try adding any FF add-ons.
fsmithred

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## Re: Pale Moon?

Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:54 pm

I just followed a link that golinux provided, and Pale Moon looks like a dark night. (Black lines and type on dark gray background. Looks fine in iceweasel. Is it just me?
https://devuan.org/pics/devuan-ci-graph.png
golinux

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## Re: Pale Moon?

Mon Nov 23, 2015 12:16 am

Just downloaded the tar file. Installer script starts but requires sudo! No sudo here. FAQ advised not to install as root. Has anybody compiled a deb I can install? Or offer advice for a workaround?
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