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golinux

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## Re: web-browser

Fri Mar 11, 2016 10:03 pm

fsr, you might want to put that in your sources list commented out so users know that it exists.
fsmithred

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## Re: web-browser

Sat Mar 12, 2016 1:14 pm

Oh, be careful! If you do an upgrade while the backports repo is enabled, you'll get a big bunch of backports installed that you don't need. This might require some pinning. Debian backports included for comparison.

Code:
  `apt-cache policy
  <snip>
  990 http://packages.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-backports/main amd64 Packages
  release v=1.0.0,o=Devuan,a=jessie-backports,n=jessie,l=jessie-backports,c=main
  origin packages.devuan.org
  500 http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie-backports/main Translation-en
  100 http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie-backports/main amd64 Packages
  release o=Debian Backports,a=jessie-backports,n=jessie-backports,l=Debian Backports,c=main
  origin http.debian.net
  <snip>
  `

nadir

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## Re: web-browser

Sat Mar 12, 2016 1:23 pm

I installed midori and commentet the repo out. In the past i wouldn't have done such, even considered it to be bad practice, but i don't trust debian much these days (i was more worried about systemd then any packages i don't need or want to upgrade).
iirc backports were made the way that you really had to tell apt-get that you want to install from backports. Has that changed?
nadir

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## Re: web-browser

Sat Mar 12, 2016 1:38 pm

btw, using the default iceweasel works better now.
not sure if "preload" did the trick or if facebook devs are done with fooling with shiny new toys. Or if it is just a miracle.
fsmithred

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## Re: web-browser

Sat Mar 12, 2016 1:46 pm

The pin-priority for Devuan's backports is 990, which is the same as for the main repo. In Debian, the pin-priority for backports is 100, so those packages don't get installed by mistake, like I just did.
I now have 48 packages from backports, most of which I don't need, and I haven't figured out an easy way to revert them. I either use dpkg and go through the archived debs with --force-downgrade, or I remove those packages along with xorg and the rest of the desktop, or I reinstall.
nadir

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## Re: web-browser

Sat Mar 12, 2016 1:49 pm

thanks for the info.
at least my memories were correct
the saying if: if you want it done, do it yourself
but the documentation at the devuan site lacks quite some info and sure a bit of clearness
nadir

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## Re: web-browser

Sat Mar 12, 2016 1:50 pm

wouldn't hurt to have a couple of small and clear how-to's in the how-to section here ...
fsmithred

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## Re: web-browser

Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:15 pm

> nadir wrote:wouldn't hurt to have a couple of small and clear how-to's in the how-to section here ...

OK... when I figure out how, and when the target stops moving. Devuan is still pre-beta.
golinux

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## Re: web-browser

Sat Mar 12, 2016 3:53 pm

fsr . . . sorry you got bit by bpo. I never suspected you would have upgraded with it enabled. I have always kept bpo (backports) and dmo (debian-multimedia) in my sources list but commented out unless I needed a specific package. Devuan originally merged both bpo and dmo with the main repo which was very confusing for me during updates. I was told that was to test the capabilities of amprolla. But they have since been separated from the main repo (after a discussion on the ML initiated by yours truly) as they have always been in Debian. Dealing with either of these repos requires extra caution.
Last I heard there was talk of an April release of the beta. hellekin is working as fast as he can to sort out issues in git and he and I are spending hours daily on getting the new website in shape. Hopefully, all will come together as planned soon . . .
nadir

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## Re: web-browser

Sat Mar 12, 2016 7:06 pm

> fsmithred wrote:

> > nadir wrote:wouldn't hurt to have a couple of small and clear how-to's in the how-to section here ...

> OK... when I figure out how, and when the target stops moving. Devuan is still pre-beta.

I wasn't asking for it, only stating that i am the "copy&paste" kinda guy, not a big reader.
If i figure something out, i will save it here too ...
Back to based on debian and back on the desktop i installed Virtualbox again, haven't fiddled with it in more than a year, installed refracta and hence i can install, upgrade and what not as much i want.
I always forget that it is beta ... (no problems here, btw).
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