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julian67

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## Still alive

Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:56 pm

I'm still alive and you fuckers are as well. How did that happen? Clues: ageing process, law of averages, bad luck, some cosmological complexity we can't even begin to contemplate let alone understand, stubbornness and ill temper.
Hi Dean et al. I might even get around to trying refracta. Still thinking about it. Does it boot?
nadir

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## Re: Still alive

Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:23 am

uhum.
Been wondering all the time where on earth you might hang around ...
as far it's me: bad luck.
fsmithred

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## Re: Still alive

Wed Apr 08, 2015 3:03 pm

Um, this is weird. You must be psychic. I was just thinking about you yesterday, and then you posted. Thanks for answering. Glad to hear you're still around. Welcome to refracta land.
There's an official refracta based on wheezy, and there are a couple of testing isos of refractized-jessie without systemd (including ones with no-X). Or just download the tools and make your own. I don't know if there will be an official release based on jessie. I'm leaning toward starter-kits instead of a finished distro. That might change as the changes in jessie settle down. It's been a bit tricky keeping the tools working.
Edit: WTF??!! Yes, it boots. (Getting it to shut down may be more of a challenge.)
julian67

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## Re: Still alive

Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:11 am

Hi!
I would have replied earlier but I couldn't be bothered. Also I lost my password and forgot my email address and username. I didn't notice at the time, this is merely a diagnostic announcement.
Nadir you are the nadir. smith you are the smith.
Which one of these refracta fuckers is meandean?
I might try refracta. My desktop and laptop run testing. I hated systemd and possibly even developed a psychosis. Then it started working and I forgot I hated it or even that it existed. My server still runs stable so the serious **** didn't happen yet. I know the new Debian release is coming in the next few weeks and I am dreading upgrading my little home server almost as much as I hate the idea of leaving it running wheezy while the world moves on and I am stuck running prehistoric ssh and remote access apps and three year old bittorrent protocols despised and blacklisted by all self-respecting teenagers. On the other hand I don't really give a **** so long as it works.
Anyway my smartphone now has more RAM and CPUs than my laptop and the ****** connects everywhere and lets me tether so probably I will sell my assh*le to google and tell them all your secrets....hahahahahahahahaha
If they don't agree a good price can we still be friends?
fsmithred

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## Re: Still alive

Fri Apr 24, 2015 11:16 am

Meandean is known as meandean around here. He shows up once in awhile to poke us with a stick.
There's wheezy-refracta in the isohybrid folder and some jessie-almost-refractas in the testing folder here -
http://sourceforge.net/projects/refracta/files/
For the testing versions, there are 32 and 64 bit NoX isos, and there's one with openbox (32 only). No systemd-anything or libsystemd-anything in any of those.
There's also a build that dzz put together that's closer to previous versions of refracta (xfce and most of the other software in past versions) and uses some repackaged-without-systemd-deps packages, here - http://www.exegnulinux.net/refracta/iso/
Edit: Depending on what software your server has, you might be able to upgrade to jessie (or mostly jessie) without any systemd. All my jessie-sysv builds started as wheezy. Then with *systemd* pinned to -1 and with dbus and libpulse0 pinned to wheezy versions, they were upgraded to jessie. Try a simulated upgrade to see what will happen if you do that.
nadir

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## Re: Still alive

Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:09 pm

As far it's me one thing is for sure: julian67 is not julian67 from forums.debian.net.
Or he has completely changed his writing style and way of thinking in the meantime (which happens rarely at that age).
julian67

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## Re: Still alive

Sun Apr 26, 2015 9:10 pm

> nadir wrote:As far it's me one thing is for sure: julian67 is not julian67 from forums.debian.net.
> Or he has completely changed his writing style and way of thinking in the meantime (which happens rarely at that age).

eat me.
then choke
actually now right in the middle of upgrading my server from wheezy to jessie.....did some preparation and just had to disable and then remove a couple of custom init scripts. Backed up /etc and some dpkg stuff and proceeded. apt-get upgrade went 100% perfectly. Now am in middle of apt-get dist-upgrade. I have painkillers and booze available if needed...and when are they not needed? OK I admit I already started on the supermarket claret.
julian67

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## Re: Still alive

Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:58 pm

**** me! It worked!
Easiest upgrade I ever did. Had to change one thing: transmission-daemon previously shipped without an init script so I used a custom one. Now it does ship with a systemd thingummy and I just had to change the systemd unit thingy wotsit script file thing type thing to the right user name and do some weird esperanto style systemd service restart and that was that.
Anxiety over for next 5 years.
2nd bottle of claret opened in celebration.
Did you ever notice how one bottle of wine is never enough but two is one too many?
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