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fsmithred

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## 6.0.4-xfce/icewm beta

Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:28 am

This forum has a "feature" that drives me crazy. If I don't compose a message fast enough, I get logged out. That's not so bad, but whatever I've been composing goes away when I click on the preview or post buttons. So went my message about the new release.
Lucky for you folks, all the good information I had written is in the release notes, which are linked on the desktop. Here's the double-abbreviated version:
user:user
root:root
kazehakase and firefox
no flash - download and convert
new installer, old installer plus /usr/local/bin/refractainstaller3b.sh to install from console.
"Install Software (beta)" in the menu - let me know what else it needs (e.g. what packages are needed for ati proprietary driver, for compiz, or for anything else that should be in that list.)
Gonna submit now, before it's too late...
Edit: /etc/init.d/ssh start
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## Re: 6.0.4-xfce/icewm beta

Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:54 pm

I am so used to that problem that i always mark all text and copy it before i hit submit.
I got no idea where it i comes from, but it is the same problem for all phpbb-forums.
Not much fun, especially when one made quotes, links and full explanations.
I tried arora, it was good and fast, but after a while i went back to iceweasel with "pictures" disabled. I willl try to get my head into kaze again...
good news.
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## Re: 6.0.4-xfce/icewm beta

Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:47 pm

Kaz is set as the default browser, but Firefox asks if you want to make it the default. I haven't actually tried that yet, but it should make the... Oops. I just tried saying yes to FF to make it the default browser, and it did nothing to change the links in the panel or main menu.
You can install iceweasel, and then either remove kazehakase or run 'update-alternatives --config x-www-browser'. I made kaz the default in case someone was running on older hardware, since it uses 1/3 to 1/2 the memory that ff/iceweasel uses.
There were two reasons why I included FF instead of iceweasel - 1. To be able to get updates to newer versions, but the automatic updates don't seem to work when I have it installed in /usr/local. On my own live usb stick, I've got it installed in my home, and it asks to update. And... 2. To be different from debian. Neither of those is a compelling reason to keep it.
Edit: To get rid of firefox completely, remove /usr/local/firefox and /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop
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## Re: 6.0.4-xfce/icewm beta

Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:22 pm

Grabbing the ISO now to test in vbox. Yay!
nadir

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## Re: 6.0.4-xfce/icewm beta

Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:37 pm

first feedback, but only "so far".
I like it.
choice of gui-apps is good, look and feel is good too.
I have not looked at cli-apps yet.
I made two installations: one in VBox and one on my old laptop (first tests, so to say).
For both i have gone for the new-installer -> easy (non-expert).
Both installations worked, but they take very long.
What i miss are:
(more) bookmarks in the browsers.
firefox-addons (especially other search-engines).
git-repo of fsmithred-github-refracta.
From what i have seen yet (not much), i like it.
EvilDairyProduct

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## Re: 6.0.4-xfce/icewm beta

Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:48 pm

OK, did a vbox install and ran into a user and a mounted CD issue.
Installed fine with the "old" installer.
Booted the installation, logged in as root and changed the password, so far so good.
Added my username, logged out and back in as my user. Nuked user "user".
Here's where it got weird. The terminal was defaulting to /home/user/ despite that user being removed.
Just something I have never seen in prior releases and thought I should point out. Group user was successfully removed when I did deluser user, btw.
One more thing, it would not allow me to "eject" the Refracta CD or umount it manually. This made installing guest additions a hassle I wasn't willing to bother with.
Positive stuff:
Look and feel is nice.
I like the refracta logo on the live-boot.
Boots very fast in both live and installed form.
fsmithred

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## Re: 6.0.4-xfce/icewm beta

Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:37 pm

There's a link to the github repo on the Refracta home page. I don't think there's anything in that repo that isn't already in /usr/local/bin.

> EvilDairyProduct wrote:Added my username, logged out and back in as my user. Nuked user "user".
> Here's where it got weird. The terminal was defaulting to /home/user/ despite that user being removed.

In that order? What's your user ID number? Did you rename the old user's home, or did you delete it and make a new one?
I think I know what happened, and if you'd used the new installer and changed the user name that way, it would have taken care of it. There are a few places in the config files where it refers to /home/user that need to be changed. To find them:

Code:
  `grep -r "/home/user/" ~/.config`

The other thing you might need to do - if you disabled sudo for your user in /etc/sudoers, you should edit ~/.gconf/apps/gksu/%gconf.xml to change sudo-mode from true to false.
Edit: Don't use the secret script. (i.e. Don't run change-username.sh). It needs some work.

> One more thing, it would not allow me to "eject" the Refracta CD or umount it manually. This made installing guest additions a hassle I wasn't willing to bother with.

I always shut down the VM before trying to change the CD. I think that's because I tried it once and couldn't change it while it was running. Not sure about that, though. I considered installing the guest additions before building the iso. Does that seem like a good idea? It would sure make working with the VM easier for me.
I agree that the installation takes long. The only way I know to speed that up is to have less stuff installed. I was kinda surprised at the size of the iso when I got done.
Did wicd work ok on your laptop?
EvilDairyProduct

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## Re: 6.0.4-xfce/icewm beta

Sat Apr 09, 2011 12:22 am

I'm pretty sure I did it in the order I posted, fsmithred. I did shutdown virtualbox and go back in to have a look and the /home/user/ was still there. I thought when you did deluser the default action is also to remove their /home. I'll do another install and muck around a little more. Adding guest additions would be awesome, I wouldn't complain... Thanks for the heads-up on the script. I almost ran it out of curiousity.
I may use this iso to replace win2k on my dad's pc. I have been after him for a few years to either replace it with something that still gets security patches, disconnect it from the outside world, or let me put linux on it.
Edit: I didn't look into the userid. If it does it again, I'll post first and wait for feedback before blowing away the vm.
nadir

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## Re: 6.0.4-xfce/icewm beta

Sat Apr 09, 2011 12:55 am

> Did wicd work ok on your laptop?

I assume you speak of wireless:
this laptop does not come with wireless
(for wired wicd work fine).
the long installation is no problem for me as long i know it (which i do now).
for the user named user:
i did never fiddle with that. Either i take "user" or i add a second one. Usually i leave user (i think, i am not so sure).
Default behavior is to leave /home/user_name if one deletes a user.
I often got the CD-eject problem in VBox. Sometimes i need to reboot to eject the CD. This happens for all kind of Live-CDs/isos, not only for refracta.
I was not able to install guest-additions, but it was a different problem (i forgot which one).
I forgot about /usr/local/bin.
nadir

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## Re: 6.0.4-xfce/icewm beta

Sat Apr 09, 2011 1:06 am

The release notes are great.
I will copy them to my private help-how-tos-folder
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