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			<h3 class="first"><a href="security-update-refracta-7-and-refracta-snapshot-t319.html#p2893">Security update: Refracta-7 and Refracta Snapshot</a></h3>
			<p class="author"><a href="post2893.html#p2893"><img src="styles/ProNight/imageset/icon_post_target.gif" width="11" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" /></a>by <strong><a href="http://refracta.freeforums.org/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=54">fsmithred</a></strong> &raquo; Mon Sep 09, 2013 1:33 am </p>

			

			<div class="content">...<br /><span style="font-weight: bold">Summary:</span><br />Refracta Snapshot versions 9.0.9-2 and earlier copy the ssh host keys along with the rest of the system. This could facilitate a Man-in-the-Middle attack if you're logging in from a remote location.<br /><br />If you have your ssh server open to the internet, and you are installing or have installed Refracta version 7.0 or 7.1, you need to change your ssh host keys. This is easy to do and is explained below.<br /><br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold">Fixed in:</span><br />The issue has been fixed in Refracta_7.1.1 and Refracta Snapshot 9.0.9-4.<br /><br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold">Who is at risk?</span><br />This affects i386 and amd64 versions of:<br />- Refracta-7.0 through 7.1_20130901 (replaced by 7.1.1_20130908)<br />- Refracta Snapshot through 9.0.9-2 (replaced by 9.0.9-4.)<br /><br />If you install from any of the older isos, you should replace your ssh host keys, whether you're at risk or not. An alternative is to uninstall openssh-server or turn it off. <br /><br />The ssh server is running by default in Refracta. If you're not behind a firewall/router, or if your router is set up to forward ssh traffic to your computer, and you're planning to actually log into your computer from outside your local network, you should generate new keys. (Note: if you're running like this with the live-CD or you didn't change the root and user passwords when you installed, you have more serious risks, since the passwords are publicized.)<br /><br />If you disabled password logins and set up public/private key authentication for your user, this is not an issue, but you should still make new host keys.<br /><br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold">How to generate new host keys</span><br />Log into a terminal as root, change directory, delete the old keys and create new ones, all with the following commands.<br /><dl class="codebox"><dt>Code: <a href="security-update-refracta-7-and-refracta-snapshot-t319.html?mobile=desktop#" onclick="selectCode(this); return false;" class="postlink-local">Select all</a></dt><dd><code>su<br />(give root password)<br />cd /etc/ssh<br />rm ssh_host_*key*<br />ssh-keygen -A</code></dd></dl><br />Four key-pairs will be generated. You can get rid of the RSA1 keys; they aren't used.<br /><dl class="codebox"><dt>Code: <a href="security-update-refracta-7-and-refracta-snapshot-t319.html?mobile=desktop#" onclick="selectCode(this); return false;" class="postlink-local">Select all</a></dt><dd><code>rm ssh_host_key ssh_host_key.pub</code></dd></dl><br /><br />After changing the keys, anyone who has logged into your machine on ssh in the past will get the scary warning about the host not matching what's in the known hosts file the next time they log in. They'll need to delete or edit ~/.ssh/known_hosts.<br /><br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold">Alternative solution:</span><br />If you don't need to use the ssh server, you can just uninstall openssh-server (apt-get purge openssh-server) or turn it off (Main Menu -&gt; System -&gt; Services, or run services-admin from a terminal, or kill ssh and disable it with sysv-rc-conf.)<br /><br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold">Do I need to download a new iso file?</span><br />You can use the zsync file to bring your iso up to date without downloading the whole thing. (apt-get install zsync if you need to.) Run one of the following commands for i386 or amd64 as unprivileged user from the directory that contains the old iso file, replacing &lt;old-version&gt; with the actual version number of the iso file you have.<br /><br />i386:<br /><dl class="codebox"><dt>Code: <a href="security-update-refracta-7-and-refracta-snapshot-t319.html?mobile=desktop#" onclick="selectCode(this); return false;" class="postlink-local">Select all</a></dt><dd><code>zsync -i refracta-7.-&lt;old-version&gt;.iso http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/refracta/isohybrid/refracta_7.1.1_i386-20130908_1131.iso.zsync</code></dd></dl><br />amd64:<br /><dl class="codebox"><dt>Code: <a href="security-update-refracta-7-and-refracta-snapshot-t319.html?mobile=desktop#" onclick="selectCode(this); return false;" class="postlink-local">Select all</a></dt><dd><code>zsync -i refracta-7.-&lt;old-version&gt;.iso http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/refracta/isohybrid/refracta_7.1.1_amd64-20130908_0334.iso.zsync</code></dd></dl><br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold">Updated deb packages</span><br /><a href="http://sourceforge.net/projects/refracta/files/tools/refractasnapshot-base_9.0.9-4_all.deb/download" class="postlink" rel="nofollow" onclick="this.target='_blank';">refractasnapshot-base_9.0.9-4_all.deb</a><br /><a href="http://sourceforge.net/projects/refracta/files/tools/refractasnapshot-gui_9.0.9-4_all.deb/download" class="postlink" rel="nofollow" onclick="this.target='_blank';">refractasnapshot-gui_9.0.9-4_all.deb</a><br /><br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold">If you use refractasnapshot or a modified version of it on another distro:</span><br />Add the following to the excludes list:<dl class="codebox"><dt>Code: <a href="security-update-refracta-7-and-refracta-snapshot-t319.html?mobile=desktop#" onclick="selectCode(this); return false;" class="postlink-local">Select all</a></dt><dd><code>- /etc/ssh/ssh_host_*_key*<br />- /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key*</code></dd></dl><br />Add the following to the append line in the isolinux (or syslinux) boot menu if you want openssh-server to work. 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			<div class="content">I don't have a 'services' option in the menu:<br /><br /><blockquote class="uncited"><div>Main Menu -&gt; System -&gt; Services</div></blockquote><br /><br />Where is it hiding?</div>

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			<p class="author"><a href="post2895.html#p2895"><img src="styles/ProNight/imageset/icon_post_target.gif" width="11" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" /></a>by <strong><a href="http://refracta.freeforums.org/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=54">fsmithred</a></strong> &raquo; Mon Sep 09, 2013 2:54 am </p>

			

			<div class="content">It's um, the next item after Refracta Snapshot in my menu. <img src="images/smilies/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /></div>

			

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			<div class="content">'Sensor Viewer' is my next item.  I'm working off an upgraded beta though.  I checked and it is installed.  Might want to rethink your instructions.  I might not be the only one.</div>

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			<p class="author"><a href="post2897.html#p2897"><img src="styles/ProNight/imageset/icon_post_target.gif" width="11" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" /></a>by <strong><a href="http://refracta.freeforums.org/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=54">fsmithred</a></strong> &raquo; Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:14 am </p>

			

			<div class="content">Edited: Try running 'services-admin'. Your beta might be from before gnome-system-tools got installed. You could probably update the iso you have using the zsync instructions.<br /><br />I don't have Sensor Viewer. What is it?</div>

			

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			<p class="author"><a href="post2898.html#p2898"><img src="styles/ProNight/imageset/icon_post_target.gif" width="11" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" /></a>by <strong><a href="http://refracta.freeforums.org/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=88">golinux</a></strong> &raquo; Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:48 am </p>

			

			<div class="content">'services-admin' opened a menu with ssh on it and I unchecked the box.  So is it turned off?<br /><br />'sensor viewer' is a failed experiment.  Not working right.  probably need to uninstall.</div>

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			<p class="author"><a href="post2899.html#p2899"><img src="styles/ProNight/imageset/icon_post_target.gif" width="11" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" /></a>by <strong><a href="http://refracta.freeforums.org/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=54">fsmithred</a></strong> &raquo; Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:14 am </p>

			

			<div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite>golinux wrote:</cite>'services-admin' opened a menu with ssh on it and I unchecked the box.  So is it turned off?</div></blockquote><br />Yes. You can check it with (as root)<dl class="codebox"><dt>Code: <a href="security-update-refracta-7-and-refracta-snapshot-t319.html?mobile=desktop#" onclick="selectCode(this); return false;" class="postlink-local">Select all</a></dt><dd><code>/etc/init.d/ssh status</code></dd></dl>It's also possible to turn it on and off with the same command, replacing status with start or stop, but you can't turn it off permanently with that. It would come on again at the next boot.</div>

			

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			<p class="author"><a href="post2900.html#p2900"><img src="styles/ProNight/imageset/icon_post_target.gif" width="11" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" /></a>by <strong><a href="http://refracta.freeforums.org/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2">nadir</a></strong> &raquo; Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:35 pm </p>

			

			<div class="content">Thanks for the detailed info.<br /><br />I can't figure out when one will be affected and how a possible attack would look like. Right now it looks like a very unusual case (That is still a security problem, but, as far it's me not a dramatic one. I would remove the old keys, like you described and not worry much more about it). <br />* <br /><br />What i always do when using ssh:<br />1) disable password, use ssh-keys<br />2) diable root login<br />3) use a non-default port<br />4) write (rather use an existing) .ssh/config file <br />5) install i2pban<br />6) disable the autostart of sshd with sysv-rc-conf<br /><br /><br />* To me it looks like this:<br />1) Someone runs refracta and figures out the problem<br />2) He sets up a machine with said keys<br />3) He needs to know who (IP) is using ssh on refracta too and<br />4) redirect the traffic to his site (IP)  (well: how? He has no access to the router, no?)<br />5) While he can redirect you to his site, i can't see how he will be able to login to your site (by this problem, else it is just like usual. But no further security risk seems to be added from that point of view. I mean: He needs to say: "Yup, i know that host", not the other way around - he connects via ssh and you say: "Yup, i know that host." I think).<br /> <br />Is that possible? I guess yes (Probably much easier if in the same LAN). Is it probable? Is it easy? I'd say: rather not. <br />But that is really wild guessing. If you read about cracking (or watch youtube videos) you think: oh, that is damn easy. If you do it .... nearly impossible. In other words: i understand **** how all that works. <br />The interested ones might want to look at dsniff (won't hurt to look at to understand more about the internet protocol: I am the attacker. I tell the router: "Hey, i am the PC" and i tell the PC: "Hey, i am the router". The router will now forward traffic for the PC to me, the PC will send his traffice supposed for the router to me. You could sniff (say passwords) but could you do more harm (unless you will find some - clear text- passwords).  Or similar to that. Yes?). securitytube is good. <br /><br />STRESS:<br />Really, i am sure about nothing of that. Trying to figure it out, but it's very difficult.</div>

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			<div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite>fsmithred wrote:</cite>Yes. You can check it with (as root)<dl class="codebox"><dt>Code: <a href="security-update-refracta-7-and-refracta-snapshot-t319.html?mobile=desktop#" onclick="selectCode(this); return false;" class="postlink-local">Select all</a></dt><dd><code>/etc/init.d/ssh status</code></dd></dl></div></blockquote><br />Looks like it worked.  YEA!<br /><br /><dl class="codebox"><dt>Code: <a href="security-update-refracta-7-and-refracta-snapshot-t319.html?mobile=desktop#" onclick="selectCode(this); return false;" class="postlink-local">Select all</a></dt><dd><code># /etc/init.d/ssh status<br />&#91;FAIL&#93; sshd is not running ... failed!</code></dd></dl></div>

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			<div class="content">Uploaded new iso (i386) and new refractasnapshot. Minor bugfixes - Updated to Debian 7.2, iso is once again smaller than 700MB, owing to newer version of refractasnapshot, which excludes a few more things that were just taking up space. Also, numlock is off again.<br /><br />Changelogs for refractasnapshot (9.0.9-5) <dl class="codebox"><dt>Code: <a href="security-update-refracta-7-and-refracta-snapshot-t319.html?mobile=desktop#" onclick="selectCode(this); return false;" class="postlink-local">Select all</a></dt><dd><code>&nbsp; * added browser sqlite files to rsync excludes:<br />&nbsp; * urlclassifier3, places, cookies, signons, formhistory, downloads<br />&nbsp; * added icon cache, failed thumbs and some backup files to excludes.<br />&nbsp; * pkglist now includes held packages<br />&nbsp; * Changed function check_space to use df only once<br />&nbsp; * Run updatedb before copying filesystem<br />&nbsp; * Added debug mode<br />&nbsp; <br /><br /> --&nbsp; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 23:40:00 -0400</code></dd></dl></div>

			

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