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fsmithred

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## Re: Installer option: "Do not format"

Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:50 am

> ukbrian wrote: maybe a horizontal cd with a guy with a pick working on the cd.

LOL! Thanks, I needed that. I've been bashing my head against bash for hours.
fsmithred

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## Re: Installer option: "Do not format"

Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:52 pm

> ukbrian wrote:Arn't you already doing the colored button thing here?

The pic you posted shows the default buttons. If you define the buttons in yad, the icons go away. It does that even if you use the same word that the button normally uses. Also, in yad, you can change the button order, but in zenity, you can't. Try these, and you'll see what I mean.

Code:
  `yad --question
  yad --question --button="no":1 --button="yes":0
  yad --question --button="Cancel":1 --button="OK":0
  yad --question --button="OK":0 --button="Cancel":1
  zenity --question
  zenity --question --ok-label="yes" --cancel-label="no"
  zenity --question --cancel-label="no" --ok-label="yes"
  `

And one of the reasons I like yad:

Code:
  `yad --question --button="no":1 --button="yes":0 --button="maybe":3 --button="Only on Tuesdays":4`

BTW - credit for getting the iso to fit on a CD goes almost entirely to dzz. He tweaked the excludes several times and came up with the idea and the code for using xz compression with mksquashfs.
And I think I need to give you credit for getting the word out there about refracta. You've been talking us up in several places on the internet, and I noticed that our downloads this week are about double the previous maximum. Thanks.
Yikes! I just checked again. Nearly a hundred downloads each of the i386 and amd64 isos this week.
ukbrian

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## Re: Installer option: "Do not format"

Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:09 pm

> And I think I need to give you credit for getting the word out there about refracta

Would that be credit or blame?
One thing I thought that Anthony done right was to use remastersys to build the iso so when the user took a snapshot he was using the same installer, I think snapshots are an essential, he should have gone for refracta tho.
I think Schoelje of SolydXK would snap your hand off for your snapshot/installer and possibly your refracta base, I think kde is his preference and I think his xfce base is his kde one modified because you get odd kde references in errors sometimes.
I only mentioned you on the Saline forum which folk were thinking it was coming to an end.
Richard

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## Re: Installer option: "Do not format"

Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:27 pm

@ukbrian,
Well, I appreciate the link.
I tried Refracta but was already happy with SalineOS.
I don't really have the time or patience to begin with Debian Net install and work up.
Way too many things to search for and track down how to do it, and etcetera.
Lazy, mostly.
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## Re: Installer option: "Do not format"

Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:31 am

> ukbrian wrote:One thing I thought that Anthony done right was to use remastersys to build the iso so when the user took a snapshot he was using the same installer,.

Sorry, I don't understand what you're saying. (Keep in mind that I've never used remastersys, so I might be missing something that's obvious to others.)

> I think Schoelje of SolydXK would snap your hand off for your snapshot/installer and possibly your refracta base, I think kde is his preference and I think his xfce base is his kde one modified because you get odd kde references in errors sometimes.

Maybe a language barrier here. He wants to attack me, or he wants to use snapshot/installer? Or something else? BTW, I made a kde-wheezy build for a friend last spring. The tools worked just fine. And dzz uses Trinity desktop, which is a kde fork.
Edit: Oops. Almost forgot what I came here for. Installer 9.0.9beta2 debs are up. Both yad and zenity versions have the blkid fix for labels. http://distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/files/Testing/
There's the link.
ukbrian

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## Re: Installer option: "Do not format"

Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:45 am

@Richard

> Well, I appreciate the link.
> I tried Refracta but was already happy with SalineOS

Likewise but I always used Refracta snapshot/installer.

> I don't really have the time or patience to begin with Debian Net install and work up.
> Way too many things to search for and track down how to do it, and etcetera.
> Lazy, mostly.

I have the time and patience I just totally lack the skills.
@fsmithred

> Sorry, I don't understand what you're saying. (Keep in mind that I've never used remastersys, so I might be missing something that's obvious to others.)
> I think Schoelje of SolydXK would snap your hand off for your snapshot/installer and possibly your refracta base, I think kde is his preference and I think his xfce base is his kde one modified because you get odd kde references in errors sometimes.

Schoelje is using Ikey's installer from LMDE and it has a major problem, before opening gparted it asks you which drive to install to and gparted only opens/displays that drive so you cannot install home/swap to a different drive which is a problem for folk who want them on a different drive.
When Ikey posted that he was going to write another installer for the new solusos both Schoelje and VastOne(Vsido) posted on the forum that they were interested and would like to use the new installer.
If they used refracta snapshot/installer they would have a very good installer plus a snapshot utility which a lot of solydxk folk have been asking for.
I think Schoelje is building SolydXK on a modified LMDE base and I think Refracta is a much better base to build off especially for his LTS business version.
I think you should have a look at Anthony's SalineOS Cleanse OS, it's listed as "clean" on github.
I pruned Refracta down to 580 MB and ran clean and it removed about 40 MB of cruft I then ran bleachbit and it removed another 370 KB but it takes up 1.8 MB of space so I removed that as well.

> The pic you posted shows the default buttons. If you define the buttons in yad, the icons go away. It does that even if you use the same word that the button normally uses. Also, in yad, you can change the button order,

Sorry well beyond the skill set of a retired manual worker , I can't do original code just tweak existing stuff when I am familiar with the data.
Any chance of adding a checkbox and textbox to this screen.
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## Re: Installer option: "Do not format"

Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:47 pm

The refracta tools are all GPL-3, so anyone is welcome to use or adapt them for their needs. Anticapitalista has done that for Antix. So has dzz for exelinux. And I've used a bunch of dzz's code in the refracta tools. As for using the refracta (pseudo)distro as a base for another distro, I don't know if that's such a good idea. I think it makes more sense to start with a minimal debian base and build from there. But that's just my opinion, and it's worth what you paid for it.
The root partition window looks interesting. Where's it from? I might want to borrow ideas from it, but I can tell you it won't happen fast. I'd probably have to make some major changes in the way the program flows to work that in. Right now, I'm just trying to get everything stable and functional enough with wheezy and sid to leave it alone for awhile, and slowly work on getting the next stable release (jessie) ready for next year.
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## Re: Installer option: "Do not format"

Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:09 pm

Has anyone tested the latest versions of snapshot/installer on squeeze? Or should I stick with the ones that worked last time I tried - 9.0.8-1 and 9.0.8?
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## Re: Installer option: "Do not format"

Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:31 pm

Latest versions on sourceforge all work on squeeze.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/refracta/files/tools/
Download and look at the changelogs or find my posts with that information to see what's been changed or fixed.
beta2 installer in the Testing folder at ibiblio should also work on squeeze. It has the "do not format" option that would have helped you when you formatted and labeled partitions in gparted.
Edit: I'm almost certain that I've run the beta installer in squeeze, but I've been doing so many things at once lately, that I won't say 100% sure. I know I didn't introduce any changes that would prevent it from working on squeeze.
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## Re: Installer option: "Do not format"

Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:41 pm

refractainstaller-gui_9.0.9beta3.deb now in testing folder. The no_format option is in both the yad-based and zenity-based scripts. It'll work with the beta2 package of refractainstaller-base. (It'll work with the beta1, if you have that.) Also fixed a bit in the pre-install message so that it'll tell you if you're going to encrypt the root partiton. That got lost when I added no_format..
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