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anticapitalista

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## Re: Going with the systemd flow . . . or not?

Sat Jun 06, 2015 7:50 am

dzz, do you have any systemd folders at all? init-system-helpers seems to drag in etc/systemd and a debootstrap from devuan drags it in as well.
anticapitalista

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## Re: Going with the systemd flow . . . or not?

Sat Jun 06, 2015 7:56 am

> dzz wrote:
> An experimental live image is here.. (scrappy eudev version, updates later): ftp://exegnulinux.net/refracta/iso/eudev/

What's the username and password?
dzz

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## Re: Going with the systemd flow . . . or not?

Sat Jun 06, 2015 10:07 am

Cheers anti.

> do you have any systemd folders at all? init-system-helpers seems to drag in etc/systemd and a debootstrap from devuan drags it in as well

A number of packages will, including (systemd-) udev. Mostly they are only systemd service files provided with a package which can do nothing unless systemd-sysv is installed and active as pid1. If unsure check with apt-file.
init-system-helpers itself seems not to be repackaged by devuan so you get debian version in a bootstrap. It does appear repackaged at angband.pl though, why I'm not sure as it seems to have no actual *systemd* dependencies.
Do note when you do a bootstrap "--exclude=systemd,systemd-sysv,libsystemd0" does exactly that in devuan's version.

> What's the username and password?

user:user
root:root (or possibly root pw is unset, like in usual debian-live, in which case use sudo)
golinux

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## Re: Going with the systemd flow . . . or not?

Sat Jun 06, 2015 1:34 pm

Bravo, dzz!!!
anticapitalista

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## Re: Going with the systemd flow . . . or not?

Sat Jun 06, 2015 5:49 pm

> dzz wrote:A number of packages will, including (systemd-) udev. Mostly they are only systemd service files provided with a package which can do nothing unless systemd-sysv is installed and active as pid1. If unsure check with apt-file.

Ok I have antiX set up right then.
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## Re: Going with the systemd flow . . . or not?

Sun Jun 07, 2015 12:27 am

Thanks, dzz! I look forward to amd64 cups. I attempted to do that today, but it's not happening, and it's the main showstopper on my debootstrap devuan installation.
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## Re: Going with the systemd flow . . . or not?

Sun Jun 07, 2015 1:02 pm

> I look forward to amd64 cups. I attempted to do that today, but it's not happening, and it's the main showstopper on my debootstrap devuan installation

If you build it yourself (obviously having first installed the build-deps) make sure your etc/hosts is correct and has a line for "localhost".. dpkg-buildpackage will puke if not (plus other strange things will happen)
Anyway, http://exegnulinux.net/nosystemd now has amd64 and sources sorted. Only eudev is in "experimental" section, the rest in "jessie"
I can't actually test cups 64, no working printer here at the moment.
Note also angband.pl has cups, one sub-version only older than (1:1.7.5-11.0nosystemd1) mine.
Next task.. amd64 "test" iso.. ready soon.
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## Re: Going with the systemd flow . . . or not?

Sun Jun 07, 2015 1:58 pm

I tried the amd64 cups (1.7.5-10) from angband, but it won't let me set up a printer on LPT1. Yours (older one, 1.7.5-7 on i386) does have LPT as a choice. Is that a build choice, or did upstream drop support for parallel port printers?
I can test your amd64 cups today.
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## Re: Going with the systemd flow . . . or not?

Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:27 pm

cups_1.7.5-11.0nosystemd1_amd64 installed with no problems and set up the printer easily. Chose LPT1, Generic, PCL laser printer, and my old HP4L is working. Printed a test page and a text file. Wow, I think I can move up to jessie for my main system now.
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## Re: Going with the systemd flow . . . or not?

Mon Jun 08, 2015 3:58 pm

I tried the amd64 cups (1.7.5-10) from angband, but it won't let me set up a printer on LPT1. Yours (older one, 1.7.5-7 on i386) does have LPT as a choice. Is that a build choice, or did upstream drop support for parallel port printers?
For me it's hack at debian/ before build and hope for the best! (unless I can find a good existing one)
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