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Richard

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## Re: Proto-Refracta Jessie with sysvinit

Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:17 pm

Nice work.
Looking forward to a repo where we aren-t afraid to dist-upgrade.
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## Re: Proto-Refracta Jessie with sysvinit

Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:11 am

> Richard wrote:Nice work.
> Looking forward to a repo where we aren-t afraid to dist-upgrade.

Thanks. But there's no guarantee that it'll keep working. Refracta uses debian repositories, and things are still changing. This release contains a couple of packages from wheezy, and a couple of held packages from jessie. Those might stop working. Meanwhile dzz has been experimenting with repackaging some things so they don't need systemd libraries. That may or may not work in the long run.
Run your dist upgrades with the -s option first, and read what it's going to do. The usual caveat applies - you break it, you get to keep the parts.
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## Re: Proto-Refracta Jessie with sysvinit

Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:15 am

My guess it you (plural you) will get it sorted once Jessie is stable.
My problems with Debian LInux are rather doubts in the long run (past Jessie).
iow: upgrades will soon become less. I think.
Thanks for it, btw. And good luck.
golinux

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## Re: Proto-Refracta Jessie with sysvinit

Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:12 pm

Worked out some issues. The CD drive finally started to spin normally. Might have been a residual configuration from the previous unit or maybe a bad disk. Anyway. Tried another disk and it burned and booted just fine. The sound issue was due to confusion of the hardware. I needed an .asoundrc config file to get it straightened out on wheezy so c/p to jessie fixed things. Still haven't been able to get the lxpanel to appear but otherwise working OK (if a little awkwardly). Would take some getting used to for sure. Will start doing some reading today to begin to learn how to get a more acceptable work-flow going. Thanks again for all your hard work. I've been spreading the word . . .
fsmithred

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## Re: Proto-Refracta Jessie with sysvinit

Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:54 pm

I don't know why you're not getting lxpanel. Did you create a new user or change the user's name when you installed? Try starting lxpanel from a terminal, just to see if it works. Make sure it's listed in ~/.config/openbox/autostart, which should look like this unless you've changed it.

Code:
  `/usr/bin/lxterminal &
  /usr/bin/lxpanel &
  spacemf --desktop &
  xscreensaver -nosplash &
  `

And that file should be executable, too.
golinux

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## Re: Proto-Refracta Jessie with sysvinit

Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:07 pm

> fsmithred wrote:I don't know why you're not getting lxpanel. Did you create a new user or change the user's name when you installed?

No new user. Not installed yet; running off the live CD.

> fsmithred wrote:Try starting lxpanel from a terminal, just to see if it works. Make sure it's listed in ~/.config/openbox/autostart, which should look like this unless you've changed it.
> Code:
>   `/usr/bin/lxterminal &
>   /usr/bin/lxpanel &
>   spacemf --desktop &
>   xscreensaver -nosplash &
>   `
> And that file should be executable, too.

Haven't changed a thing except for the .asoundrc file and I dropped in my default Iceweasel profile. The terminal pops up and there are icons on the 'desktop'. The right click menu works etc. I'll check it out next time I boot the disk.
thwak

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## Re: Proto-Refracta Jessie with sysvinit

Thu Oct 30, 2014 3:03 am

live session was same for me, exactly as golinux described
nadir

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## Re: Proto-Refracta Jessie with sysvinit

Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:06 am

No panel problems here.
Looks good to me. Both: look&feel and the selection of apps (didn't you say lots would be missing? I can't confirm that).
RAM usage is pretty leet: 175 with iceweasel running.
Didn't check it yet, but if you plan to continue with lxde, you might want to configure openbox. Well. configure, as far it's me, mainly means an applications menu and a keyboard-shortcut for a command-prompt. Just an idea.
Edit: K, i started openbox. The apps menu is there, via Debian menu (pretty much all i care for, and a command prompt). No command prompt, no wallpaper and no panel (whoever might need it, i can't say ...).
fsmithred

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## Re: Proto-Refracta Jessie with sysvinit

Thu Oct 30, 2014 11:40 am

Code:
  `5356756c1a01c92dd0add96fd63b468b refracted_jessie_sysv-20141027_1300.iso`

That's weird that some people aren't getting the panel. Check the md5sum on your downloads. Could it be a video driver issue?
How do I set keyboard actions?
How do I add custom commands to spacefm? I did add one, How Big, but then I couldn't add any more. It seemed like whatever menu items I selected to add the first one were no longer there when I tried to add another.
memtest doesn't work on the live iso. It does work if you add it to the installed system. (And it spams your grub menu.)
Another issue I've noticed is when I'm scrolling quickly down a page inside a window, it suddenly skips me across the virtual desktops. Mouse pointer is not going outside the window when this happens, and scrolling slowly prevents it. Anyone else getting that, or did my mouse hit the floor too many times?
nadir

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## Re: Proto-Refracta Jessie with sysvinit

Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:26 pm

I guess you set keyboard actions in .config/openbox/rc.xml
There i did it for openbox, so i hope it is the same for lxde.
I added lxpanel to the autostart of openbox, btw (if a panel is there, i see no reason to install a further one). I guess there one could also set a wallpaper, in case one wants one (xsetroot or such).
Not that i would see much of a point in running openbox instead of lxde. I only think: if it is there, why not offer it (slightly) configured ?
Like said. In general i am quite impressed.
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