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## nadir is famous

Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:29 am

http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/p ... /changelog
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## Re: nadir is famous

Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:46 am

Yeah, funny indeed.
Truth to be told: i ran into it, i had a bit of luck and i get a lot of help (by Praveen and Boutil).
If folks are interested there is still the irc-channel #debian-diaspora
(as far it's me: packaging is a pain in the butt, and ruby doesn't make it any better).
Short: more of a long time project.
How did you find it at all?
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## Re: nadir is famous

Sat Dec 29, 2012 6:49 pm

Well that link was the wrong one...oops
I seen it in the debian news and then started stalking and noticed you active on mentors and such.
Cool stuff...very
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## Re: nadir is famous

Sat Dec 29, 2012 10:03 pm

Yeah, it is. And thanks for the compliment (in case it was one).
But you know me: it is all a bit above me. I will do the best to get the head into it
(as far i see and understand it is still the mentors who have an eye on it, which i like. Say a safety net. I am not a big fan of too much responsibility )
i am very good at chat though ...
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## Re: nadir is famous

Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:07 am

Dean, the full story is like this:
I hang around at the freaking Web, diaspora in this case,
and someone posted he could teach others how to package.
I had different things to do (probably something with C) but thought:
What the hell, let's have a quick look in IRC.
As soon i logged in i was asked "Hey ho, ya wanna package".
I said something like "oh, ah, uh, not really, just a bit of sneaking".
Then i read a few how-to's, tried a bit, and got a lot of help.
Now i got a couple of packages build, some are fubar, some work (but already done by others), some i am still working on.
Oh, during that i also wrote more than just a few sentences at
wiki.debian.org/Diaspora
That is all which happened.
It ain't a big thing.
(Sure i am a little bit proud. But, like said, i didn't do much, nor do i understand much of what is going on. I am also proud to be the guinea-pig for refracta, and a forum member of forums.debian.net - i kinda contribute, i guess. Best of all: julian67 did never give me the business, which i don't fully understand ....).
Did that make a bit of sense?
During my weekly visit at the real-realists-forums i read some stories, and what is said there is not true. They seem to be most busy when being able to speak about others (the pope himself says he knows what i wanted to do for long? Huh? From where does he know that? God spoke to him? If i dare asking. I sure did never say or want that ... ha ha ha. Very good.).
(i didn't plan this nor would i want to do it. It is a **** lot of work, and you get nothing for it, only a few bug reports and shouting users).
Well: i guess no one can stop people talking about others.
As far it is me:
To ban someone and delete all of his posts (or posts which _might_ be by him) immediatly,
but talk about him all the time,
that really is a shame and very sad behaviour.
(Not only for a forum which neither wants to ban nor to delete posts, but in general. Very bad style).
I will get over it.
Not sure why i explain it to you, cause you know me well enough (that i don't care much for official honor-medals. Do what i do, like that, and need no confirmation )
If the end result of this whole thing is that diaspora is in Debian, then it is a good thing. If not it was a bit of fun anyway.
PS: I really should stop visiting there. Either there is nothing at all, or only nonsense.
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## Re: nadir is famous

Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:16 am

Short and last version:
I miss the old days of forums.debian.net.
I really do.
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## Re: nadir is famous

Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:00 pm

only you would accidentally become a maintainer
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## nadir is famous?

Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:08 pm

debian is strange that way.
gets stranger every day.
it must be reaching the other side of the universe by now.
edit: and of course the annoying youtube music video that
describes where my feeters are when I posted this
http://youtu.be/WqHFixn_a_A
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## Re: nadir is famous

Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:44 am

I think Debian does it good.
But i got to add: as far i understand.
MrSomeone starts to package.
He asks via mail for a sponsor.
The sponsor (a dev) checks if the package is in line with Debian quality. If yes, she uploads, if no, she helps.
I don't know what is the function of the one who packaged at this point. It seems he will be mentioned at Debian news and get a "welcome".
The responsibility is still in the hands of the sponsor (i think). Don't get me wrong: the packager will get bug reports and all, but there is a safety net (and you can make a lot of errors, from a missing tab-space in copyright to a borked description to a wrong patch to a missing dependecy ... endless).
Let's call this step one.
Step 2:
If you could create packages _without_ _any_ _help_ from your sponsor, with the quality expected from a Debian package, then you can ask to become a Maintainer.
Step 3 is to ask for becoming a developer (right now i don't bet on anything, too tired to read the Maintainer FAQ, but i think the only difference between a Maintainer and a Developer is being able to vote).
Stress it: There really is a safety-net to avoid any idiot (say me) can do bigger harm.
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Why do i post this? I am not sure. I had a short break with packaging (as i had to set up my new ISP and was slightly fucked up). I started again and could solve a very weird problem (long-short: the name of the git pristine-tar branch files *delta and *id were wrong, they missed the leading ruby-<pkg-name><version->.[delta|id].
Being happy to have solved that i got new comments about some (really tiny) changes i still need to make (just a matter of style, of being of full debian quality, not a matter of a not-working package).
That took me, more or less, 3 hours, and i am not fully done yet.
Let's stress this: I only speak of cleaning up a a bit.
If all this is good for nothing it sure is good for this: I really appreciate the ones who package for us. It's ... exhausting (and that is the very friendly version).
If you want need some fun on a rainy day, do this: "man pristine-tar".
If someone thinks: Wow, that is all i ever have dreamt of: Go to wiki debian, /Diaspora/packaging, and join the forces. You got the main workflow over there. If someone is really interested i can try to describe (strange enough you barely find that online). Or better: go to the shrink. You got serious problems.
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## Re: nadir is famous

Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:45 am

It bugs me that i am never sure where to put a comma. btw.
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